A Little Help!

A Little Help!

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    A Little Help!

    This thing has turned into a real project gun! Worked on the extractor and got that to where I think it should be, cycled some rounds through the gun and had failure to go into battery. Thought it was the extractor but I don’t think so as it will not return to battery with no mag or ammo in the gun.

    See below, the slide stops right about there every time and will lock into battery if I give it a push and then it “clunks” in like there may be a bind but I can’t find it if there is a bind. The link seems good, the lugs do not show unusual wear. I did stone off the bottom of the slide that rides the disconnect (can’t remember correct term) but no joy.

    Not sure if it matters but this is a .38 Super LW Commander.

    What am I missing here?
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    Can you feel where i it is hanging up?

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    Yes, right about where it’s shown in the photo. About a half inch from going into battery. If I just have the slide on the frame I can feel the disconnect but it’s not hanging. Slide to frame is pretty loose so no bind there. The ejector pin is not out.


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    With the recoil spring and slide stop out will it travel freely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    With the recoil spring and slide stop out will it travel freely?

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    Yes. I did replace the recoil spring but it does it with the old spring too. Could it be the guide rod? I’ve looked and it seems smooth, no burrs.


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    Try it with just the spring and guide (leave slide stop out) and work the problem a piece at a time.

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    And if/when it locks up again, can we get a pic of the whole gun?

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    Is it possible you're getting the barrel link in front of the slide stop pin.

    This a bushing or cone barrel?

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    In the photo, is the slide in contact with the top of the thumb safety lever? It looks like they are touching but it may just be the angle of the photo. The reason for asking is to see if perhaps the slide is riding on the thumb safety causing friction and a bind.

    Based on your original post, it appears that you are having the same problem whether you are firing the pistol and the action is operating through recoil or if you are pulling the slide back and releasing it to chamber a round manually. Is that correct?

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    From the photo, it appears the extended lever on your slide stop is hitting the top of the stock and pushing the slide stop into the slide causing a bind. Try using a standard slide stop and see if that changes anything.
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    Did it do this before you made changes or replaced any parts?
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    It could just be the picture/angle, but it looks like the slide stop nub is dragging.
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    You made me pull one apart and trouble shoot

    That looks like the spot where the series 80 trigger system would have the firing pin plunger aligned with the plunger lever located in the frame.
    That's the lever that presses up the firing pin plunger when the trigger is pulled. It also can hinder you when you are putting the gun back together if that lever is in the UP position. A person might keep ramming the slide into the lever, not knowing why he can't cycle the slide freely.

    I would field strip your gun and push up on the firing pin plunger with something. Make sure it moves freely into the slide and springs back out. Check it for dents or marks where it might be hitting something, side and bottom.
    Then I would play with the trigger (hold onto the hammer to keep it from falling freely) and see if that plunger lever wants to stick in the up position even when the trigger is released. Maybe you'll even see it looks like it's bent or has a big burr on the tip, in which case you can bend it back and make sure there are no burrs.

    All this said without know what you did to the gun or the problems you were originally having.
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    I just thought of something else when I was feeding the dogs.
    Make sure the trigger springs back, too. You can pull it and it returns. Maybe the sear spring is broken or not putting enough pressure on the trigger to return it completely and it might be keeping that plunger lever sticking up.
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    Hey CWO, consider a small blob of lube at the hiney end of the pistol. Maybe the rear part of the rails or the hammer strut pin (but not limited to these.)
    A few years back my brand new Ruger Elsie-nine had similar issues, and the rear lube solve the issue.

    Good luck fixing the prob!
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