This is a discussion on Drop Leg Holsters (for the OC people only) within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; What is a "tactard" if you care to explain that one? I'm not familiar with that term. Tactard is short for tactical retard. The mall ...
Tactard is short for tactical retard. The mall ninja type of guy who buys a ton of gear thinking it will be the end all be all and that buying stuff makes you some sort of operator. Think the guy with thousands of dollars of gear who can't hit the broadside of a barn. But also the weekend warrior type who may have some shooting skills but spends way too much time playing soldier.What is a "tactard" if you care to explain that one? I'm not familiar with that term.
Public airing of grievances usually doesn't resolve much.
I'm not saying we should kill all the stupid people. I'm saying remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.
I've been an opponent of drop leg holsters, except for very specialized situations/duties, for quite some time. Most of the LEO K9 handlers I've seen wear them but when pressed, they can't provide a substantial reason. I think they do it to "look tactical."
As others have said, they're primarily intended for people for whom the sidearm is the secondary weapon. Those folks are usually armed with some type of long gun, rifle, shotgun, grenade launcher, etc. They wear the drop leg to get their handgun, which is rarely put into use, out of the way of their primary weapon, but still keep it at hand, if needed. It's rarely the choice of knowledgeable professionals for whom the handgun is their primary weapon, unless they are wearing heavy load−bearing−vests that hang over the beltline, making the wearing of a belt holster virtually impossible.
I've listened to lots of people tell me that they are faster to draw from than a belt holster but every time I put them to the test, they discover that they are quite slow in comparison. If you are standing still and upright, with your gun hand at your side when you need a gun, it might be faster. That is, if you're standing quite still. If any movement is necessary, getting out of a car, running for cover, wrestling with an opponent, the holster will have moved, even if the straps are uncomfortably tight. Now you're spending time looking for the gun, instead of drawing it.
OTOH a properly worn belt holster is always in the same place, whether you're getting out of a car, running, or wrestling. The mechanics of drawing from a drop leg holster require you to fully (or near it) extend your gun arm. That's a relatively weak position for your arm. But drawing from a belt holster means that your arm is bent in a near 90 degree angle, one of its strongest positions.
If you are carrying something with both hands, several grocery bags by their bottoms, or a moderately heavy cardboard box, for example, your arms will be that right angle position. From there, it's a simple matter to rotate your arm on the shoulder joint to reach for your gun. If you're wearing a leg drop holster, you'll have to extend your gun arm for the draw.
If drawing from a drop leg holster was so fast, virtually every type of competitor would be wearing one. Yet, few, if any, are. Overwhelmingly, they're wearing holsters at or very near their beltlines.
As at least one other member has pointed out, they're very difficult to defend in a gun grab situation, they're very rare, but when it does occur, it's literally matter of life and death. The mechanics of holding the gun in the holster, while dealing with the threat, require that the arm be straight, pushing the gun into the holster. The arm is not at its strongest in that position, as it is when bent at a right angle.
I'd suggest that you try some of the exercises I've mentioned and see for yourself that the drop leg, while very cool looking, is not a good choice, except for very rare situations.
A drop leg holster? A big clue indicating an Operator operating operationally, of course.
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As stated earlier the drop legs came from wearing a tactical vest. Often times there just isnt enough room for the vest not to contact the stuff on the waist depending on ones build. If that is the case, its very uncomfortable to have your equipment clashing with each other when running,jumping, crawling, rolling over or doing what ever it takes to get through a course of fire.I'd love to hear some stories on your training. I'm sure I don't have the training you do and would like to hear more if willing. My body is weird as my arms are closer to my knees than they are my hips so it's odd. I just find it easier to get to a drop leg than a hip holster is all.
Most of my training has been LEO training. A lot of it includes moving and shooting, running, shooting from cover, shooting in teams, do transitions from rifle to pistol, pistol to rifle and such. We get hot, we get sweaty, we rarely stay dry because it seems that most of our training occurs when its over 100 degrees out.
Some guys love the drop holsters and some guys hate them. I dont hate them, but they just aren't ideal for me. I have wore blisters on my leg, from sweat and pants bunching up around the straps and its a constant thing adjusting the straps because they are too tight or too loose. I actually have several of them, they all have their good and bad points. My body build is one that I can wear a holster from the belt and a vest and that is generally what I do...most of the time. When training I'll throw one in the truck just in case.
With that being said, it's like any other holster. Make sure you try it and get physical with it. Test it out and see how it does for you. If you like it, that's great. If not, you may want to try something else.
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I wore one while deployed so that I could actually draw my pistol when wearing body armor. It also made if far easier to transition from full battle rattle to just my weapon. If armor wasn't likely to be worn on a given day, I stuck with my tanker holster.
If armor isn't part of your kit then drop leg holsters are more of a problem than a solution.