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    1942bull, does that front sight ever catch on that holster during the draw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Struckat View Post
    1942bull, does that front sight ever catch on that holster during the draw?
    I have a couple like that, did a lot of draw and shoot, and practice draws and never had any issue with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Struckat View Post
    1942bull, does that front sight ever catch on that holster during the draw?
    Never. The holster is basically a leather retainer that retains the gun and protects the trigger. Since the gun is wide the linear axis of the slide is riding between the belt and the holster leather retainer. When you draw the sight does not come even in near contact with either the belt retainer. Think of it this way, the belt and the retainer strap form a holster. Like any holster the sight axis is between the two and therefore clears both. What is amazing is that after dozens of holsters in my life my EDC model cost $10 at Walmart. It is the Fiocchi Foldaway.you get two retainer straps. One for subcompact and one for compact and larger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1942bull View Post
    I come late to this thread considering when it originated, but never too late. I have a strong opinion based on real life experience. In order of importance the three decisive factors are:

    1. Accuracy ó if you cannot hit the target quickly, you are at step one of losing the fight.
    2- Speed of Presentation ó Precise accuracy coupled with pesentation and traget acquisition is critical. Being slow does not win gunfights.
    3- Ammo Capacity ó if you do not hit the target with the first three rounds you are unlikely to hit it with the next fourteen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinRohrer View Post
    Umm, there is no correlation between the two.
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    I donít have a dog in this fight as Iím not particularly fast and carry a 5 shot snub. I practice as much as I can. If I had to choose between speed and capacity I would choose speed with an emphasis on accuracy. 9/10ths of a second is impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
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    That's ok. I don't mind not being rewarded for being the voice of Reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    This is true.

    And it is painstakingly obvious when you are trying to go for real speed ( say, 5 shots in 4 seconds from the draw)
    The g26, as I carry it, is biased for concealment, without the pinky grip or extension, which effects both draw speed and presentation, but itís a compromise that I accept.

    But the differences will become evident under application.
    That example isnít that ďspeedyĒ to some of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick McC. View Post
    That example isnít that ďspeedyĒ to some of us.
    No itís not. Especially if you arenít trying for a smaller area than anywhere on the body at close range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullet183 View Post
    I donít have a dog in this fight as Iím not particularly fast and carry a 5 shot snub. I practice as much as I can. If I had to choose between speed and capacity I would choose speed with an emphasis on accuracy. 9/10ths of a second is impressive.
    As The Guru liked to say, "Draw quickly, shoot carefully".
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    Again I am going back to FOF training and what it has shown me.

    1st solid hit is important in winning the gunfight. He who gets first solid hit usually wins the fight. Reason for not winning that fight IF you get and have 1st hit, is stopping to assess the fight, giving the BG time to catch up in the fight. Don't stop shooting until the fight has gone out of the attacker.

    Not running out of ammo while in the gunfight...because if you do and you are not behind cover you've lost that fight then and there if the BG is still shooting.

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