This is a discussion on Lessons from Watching 12,000 gunfights within the Defensive Carry & Tactical Training forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Mike1956 And yet, the school his observations were presented to says subscribes to the following, linked in their article: ... Correia presented ...
“I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” John Wayne, "The Shootist."
[QUOTE=AzQkr;6600370]I'd agree with that. Lets use a valid comparison.
Still not valid, teacher VS student.
Fast forward to 11 minutes. Another instructor, a valid comparison.
Karl Rehn www.krtraining.com ""At KR Training, one of our ongoing efforts is to identify acceptable minimum standards for defensive handgun skills." If that's a identified acceptable minimum standard, they need to raise their standards IMO
And I Zero's vid you just put up is a valid comparison as well to the KRtraining vid were were discussing. Which further advances my stated opinion that KR would get eaten alive by others with demonstrated far superior skills.
As for John's opinions on the video's he's watched, lets keep that in context as well. He's been shooting just 12 years, he majored in seminary studies, has no professional street experience and is just a guy who expresses his opinions on video's.
If people are going to put up vids of people/trainers shooting, I'm going to compare them to my students and my own shooting automatically. And I've got real time vids to compare them to, not just words spoken on a gun site web page.
When we were working at 3 yrds, your times were initially in the mid .90's. But I pushed you into .80's and then .70's. Kept telling you if you can get a .73, you can break 6's, and then on the next few runs made a few .68 in a row from 1/2 hip
Adding 1/2 second for the concealed draw, he's at 1.18-1.23 seconds and that's after an hour on the skill. More than enough time to put two into a trainer who takes near 2 seconds to get the first shot off at eye level from the same distance.
Mike1956, another student is more than capable of putting two into a shooter that's also just under 2 seconds to the first shot at eye level at 9 feet. He's had two hours on the skill in two courses of fire.
Last edited by AzQkr; December 6th, 2017 at 12:10 AM.