The Trainer, The Practicer, and The Gun Collector - 3 types of gun people

The Trainer, The Practicer, and The Gun Collector - 3 types of gun people

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    The Trainer, The Practicer, and The Gun Collector - 3 types of gun people

    This is an interesting article that Greg Ellifritz reposted from a guy named Joshua Gideon, who is security risk consultant, and Certified Protective Security Specialist. He's also a firearms instructor. In this article, he makes some interesting observations on gun folks. I don't necessarily agree with everything he has to say, but it's an interesting read nonetheless.

    According to Gideon, there are three types of gun people. Here are a few snippets.

    The first one is the gun collector. These are the guys and gals that hang out in gun shops, always have a gun for sale and always looking for the next gun they want to purchase. They are all about the monetary value of a gun and they are your go to people when you need to know the value of a vintage 1911. You will rarely find a gun in their collection with more than a box of ammo through it.....


    The second person is the practicer. Yeah, I know, it’s not a real word, but let me explain. This person is very similar to the gun collector in a lot of ways and it may be hard to distinguish between the two. The main indicator is they hoard a lot of ammo and spend exuberant time at the gun range. They burn through thousands of rounds of ammo (generally .22 LR) and have the targets to prove it....

    This is where the third person comes in. They are the Trainer. I don’t mean the one doing the training, but rather the student who is getting the training. This person likely started out as either a gun collector or practicer. At some point, for whatever reason, they pushed aside their ego for a minute and honestly asked the question, “Am I as ready as I need to be for a worst case dynamic critical incident?” Their answer was a resounding, “NO!”

    I would have to say I am a Type 3, although I didn't get there through the route he describes. I knew nothing when I started out with firearms. I freely admit that there are tons of things I don't know, and my greatest disappointment is that I will probably never achieve the level of expertise I would like to acquire. I will also probably never be quite as good a shot as I would like to be.

    You can read the complete article here:
    https://www.nosofttargets.com/blog/b...gun-collector/
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    I'm all 3 rolled into one person. Have been since the 70's [ yes that means for over 40 years ]. Stopped being a number one 8 years ago, sold them off. 2 and 3 are diminishing slowing over time.

    Some might say that's being well rounded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzQkr View Post
    I'm all 3 rolled into one person. Have been since the 70's [ yes that means for over 40 years ]. Stopped being a number one 8 years ago, sold them off. 2 and 3 are diminishing slowing over time.

    Some might say that's being well rounded.
    And a rolling stone gathers no moss...
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    I believe Kid Rock said it best when it comes to people you've met.
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    I have guns that fall into all 3. There are some collector weapons in there; then there are the beat-up used ones that have been thru a lot of ammo. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    I believe Kid Rock said it best when it comes to people you've met.
    Not familiar with him other than by name. What did he say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    Not familiar with him other than by name. What did he say?
    "You Never Met A Mother 'something-er-other' Quite Like Me" ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcfly013 View Post
    "You Never Met A Mother 'something-er-other' Quite Like Me" ??
    Thanks.
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    I used to be the Collector, but around 2004 or 2005 I realized I had a problem and sold off a bunch of them. It was over 60 rifles, about two dozen pistols and maybe a dozen shotguns. Even collecting some guns worth K's each. But that's the problem. I got to the point I didn't really know any more what I had.

    I ended up selling most everything. Got some training and then shot a lot of what I had. I think I ran about 20k rounds through my 1911's just that summer. So much so I had to start replacing springs and re-pinning the thumb safety plunger assembly on another. And I'm not sure how much 22 cartridges, but I think I was buying two bricks a week for awhile. Then I realized I missed what I'd started with...a Mossberg 590 and a six inch Rossi 357, so I got back into wheelguns and realized I wanted to master D/A. The 1911's sat for years. I finally sold my last one awhile back.

    I'm content. The zen of shooting a revolver is always there for me to improve. I used it last year for a defensive handgun course and everyone else brought slide-actions. That was fun. I have a single stack 9mm for when the GP100 gets too heavy that day. I like my Rossi 92 carbine with the Skinner peep sights and my 12 gauge is always there should I want to go hunting pheasant, dove or quail. I still have an AR in 6.5 Grendel, but honestly I'm having a hard time getting motivated to work up a new load since the Hornady SST's have seemed to go the way of Bigfoot. I have a few others, like 22's, but they don't get shot much.



    I get in annually now for at least one all day defensive class or force on force scenario training, but my goal is two days worth of class time. I've hit that so far two years in a row. I also try to get to the range to practice for time on the draw at least once a month. I'm not as concerned about round count. I'm mainly just looking for smoothness, accuracy and consistency in my draw. And then a few times weekly at home, practicing my draw and dry-fire on targets using laser devices.

    So what does this make me? Some sort of hybrid of the Practicer and the Trainer?

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    I dismiss anyone's attempt to pigeonhole people - shooters, golfers, accountants, engineers - into specific, defined groups. Gideon's boundaries in no way define me as a shooter or gun owner. I'm disappointed in Ellifritz for giving that article legs.
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    There are 10 types of gun people. Those who understand binary and those who don't.

    There are two types of gun writers. Those who put gun people into categories and those who don't.

    OK, maybe three different kinds of writers. There are also the ones who make lists, like "The five biggest mistakes concealed carriers make." Those are the ones I like the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaCharlie View Post
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