This is a discussion on Why don't you train? within the Defensive Carry & Tactical Training forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by G26Raven Allahu snackbar! I think my Avatar is best....GBR BABY!!!...
I know everything about firearms and need no additional training.
Training is cost prohibitive.
Training takes too much time.
There is no training close to where I live.
My ego doesn't let me do this.
I don't want to embarrass myself by my lack of skill.
I don't know what to expect in a class.
The 2A does not require training.
You are your own first responder.
I think the other big issue about training, for me, is that no one instructor has all the answers or knows every technique. It's why I have, and have read, multiple books on deer hunting, photography, or diving. There are usually snippets of information I find in each book (or course) that make sense and are useful in ways no one else has presented.
You are your own first responder.
I actually had an instructor suggest this to a class I was in. He (Rob Pincus) stated, the majority of his students would be better off with some 1st aid training and a gym membership. Statistically he was 100% correct. I generally take a couple classes a year, practice often (own range) and shoot a couple IDPA matches a month along with 3Gun. Based on my age, lifestyle etc. the odds of me aver having to use a gun in self defense are slim and none at this point.
The odds that some failure or lack of training having a negative impact IF I have to use a gun are probably even more remote than that. Seems like completely untrained folks are more often than not successful when it comes to SD with a firearm.
I like training, I like taking classes, but the reality is I'd make better use of a 1st aid class and a gym membership.
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Which is worse for the bad guy, being shot by someone trained or untrained?
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And it will be from an accredited school with widely accepted doctrine with a proven track record over time, because anything less is just a waste of time and money.
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I haven't taken "classes." Right now I practice by myself on a IDPA defensive course when it's not in use, and also practice just shooting from different distances.
I had training years ago in the military. I hope that, beyond that initial training, the actual time I spent in combat (in the s#*t, it was called) has left me with the mindset I need if ever called upon again by dire circumstances. I don't know -- I might be too old. If so, I'm fooling myself and should take some courses.
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Whether ordinary folks are aware of what it is called or not they use a risk assessment when they decide whether to carry a gun or not. Some folks carry all the time regardless of the perceived level of risk while other folks decide the risk is low enough not to be burdened/inconvenienced with carrying while mowing the lawn, doing a quick run to the local store for some milk, or visiting some friends. Some folks might decide not to carry because they think carrying to Mom's house is kinda paranoid.
I think folks also do a risk assessment in regards to how much training they believe they might need or have use for. And they balance the risk to their checkbook and time available vs the amount of physical risk of being attacked. Someone who lives in a really bad part of town might have a different perspective on the need for training, or the amount of training needed, than someone who lives out in the country 5 miles away from the nearest (small) town.
Kinda like the difference between the amount of training needed by the average person to address the risks in their average daily life and the training needed for a special ops team to address the risks during a mission.
So how much training is needed? Again comes the answer no one likes to hear....
Unfortunately there are many gun owners who will still shop at Wal Mart even though they know Wal Mart partnered with Everytown for Gun Safety just because it is convenient and they can save a few bucks.
I have been carrying handguns since 1963 in civilian life. In 1967, I dropped my girlfriend off at her home and took a shortcut through a ghetto area in a big city around 3:00 am headed back to the military base. I had to draw my gun, but not use it in an attempted carjacking. I never took a shortcut through a ghetto area again. Experience is the best training.
That is my only use of a handgun in fifty-six years of carrying in civilian life. So far, so good.
But, I still carry two handguns and spare reloads when I am dressed just in case. I depend on my mindset, situational awareness, and twenty-two years of military training and experience.
Training is great. I am pushing 73 with arthritis, bad knees, and bad hips. Training to be an operator at my point in life has zero cost-benefit.
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I myself train regularly which wasnít an option. Though most of my training is done just myself coming up with drills and setting up a range. Donít attend formal courses because of the time constraints with work and the funding. Though the funding could be worked around by not adding another gun. Time constraint simply cannot be fixed at this time. I suppose I could call mine formal since Iím teaching myself and am an instructor lol.
Now if people are worried about about preserving life they should eat less, exercise more, stop smoking, and pay attention on the road. We are fortunate to live in a super safe country in the safest time in human history. Now if I lived in Venezuela, eastern Ukraine, Syria, Afghanistan, or some other place being torn apart by war, the likelihood of carrying a firearm being the number one life preservation act would be different.
What if something unfortunate happened? The district attorney presents his evidence. "Look your honor. He trained to kill. His online posts are offered as evidence."
I've never trained. Well, there was that Army stuff, but who remembers that?
The evidence would support the fact that the defendant was defending himself from grave bodily harm or death based on a reasonable man test. Please don't tell me that's the excuse you're using to not train,