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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornhusker95 View Post
    I have actually never seen a case of handicap parking abuse myself....But i have seen people buy groceries with a food stamp card...
    Then pay cash for beer and smokes and leave the store and jump into a $50000 SUV while talking on a smart phone....HMMMMM
    If you paid attention to it, you probably would. FL HP permits are tied to the DL of the person to which it is issued and use can be verified by comparing the permit to the DL. I have concerns about having my DL number plastered on a visible parking permit, but at the current time, it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornhusker95 View Post
    I have actually never seen a case of handicap parking abuse myself....But i have seen people buy groceries with a food stamp card...
    Then pay cash for beer and smokes and leave the store and jump into a $50000 SUV while talking on a smart phone....HMMMMM
    In the small town of Lemoore CA, they take their Handicapped parking seriously. Its small enough that most people are known on sight but it has a Navy Air Base so there are always new people.
    One day a high school kid pulls into the 7-11 and parks in the handicap spot. While he is in the store, our friend Mike stops at the 7-11 but finds the handicap spot taken by someone without a placard. He parks behind him so close that the car couldn't possibly get away.
    Mike is confined to a wheel chair but is far from handicapped. He coaches the Wheel chair B ball league. And regularly competes in the Para Olympics.
    So Mike gets out of his van and goes next door to wait this out.
    The kid comes out of the store and finds his car blocked in. He gets in his car and lays on the horn. and just keeps honking till the store clerk calls the cops. Being a small town it doesn't take long to get a cop on scene. A friend of mine shows up who also knows Mike, He gets the kid out of his car and off of the horn. The kid starts going off about how some idiot in this stupid van has blocked him in and won't move! So the cop explained how handi vans need that extra space to open the doors and let down the ramp. and how it is the kid who is at fault here. He starts really making his point about how walking three extra steps won't kill him but that poor wheel chair bound guy who can't other wise get around couldn't otherwise get milk for his starving aged mother! Our friend the cop was really pouring it on thick when Mike came around the corner. He had seen what was going on and did his best cripple act!
    The kid sees him and just falls apart! He is crying and apologising..... He professes how he will never block another handi spot as long as he lives. etc.... The Cop lets the kid off with a warning, Mike gets in and moves the van, The kid drives away. and our friend the cop call Mike over to tell him that if he had come around that corner in his wheelchair on one wheel at that exact moment he would have shot him dead right there!

    I never forgot that. I don't care how far I have to walk! DR
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    Also BTW, there is a YouTube video documenting a self-appointed handicapped parking monitor berating a lady with profanities outside a convenience store. Her husband came out of the store and pushed the guy down. The guy on the ground pulled a gun and shot the husband and killed him. I don't know how the case turned out. "Parking lot rage" seems to be as bad as road rage..
    boyfriend, and I to say he pushed the guy down is a gross understatement. Superbad on both parts. Both parties are now paying the price for stupid. This one, good shooting lady!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerranger View Post
    In the small town of Lemoore CA, they take their Handicapped parking seriously. Its small enough that most people are known on sight but it has a Navy Air Base so there are always new people.
    One day a high school kid pulls into the 7-11 and parks in the handicap spot. While he is in the store, our friend Mike stops at the 7-11 but finds the handicap spot taken by someone without a placard. He parks behind him so close that the car couldn't possibly get away.
    Mike is confined to a wheel chair but is far from handicapped. He coaches the Wheel chair B ball league. And regularly competes in the Para Olympics.
    So Mike gets out of his van and goes next door to wait this out.
    The kid comes out of the store and finds his car blocked in. He gets in his car and lays on the horn. and just keeps honking till the store clerk calls the cops. Being a small town it doesn't take long to get a cop on scene. A friend of mine shows up who also knows Mike, He gets the kid out of his car and off of the horn. The kid starts going off about how some idiot in this stupid van has blocked him in and won't move! So the cop explained how handi vans need that extra space to open the doors and let down the ramp. and how it is the kid who is at fault here. He starts really making his point about how walking three extra steps won't kill him but that poor wheel chair bound guy who can't other wise get around couldn't otherwise get milk for his starving aged mother! Our friend the cop was really pouring it on thick when Mike came around the corner. He had seen what was going on and did his best cripple act!
    The kid sees him and just falls apart! He is crying and apologising..... He professes how he will never block another handi spot as long as he lives. etc.... The Cop lets the kid off with a warning, Mike gets in and moves the van, The kid drives away. and our friend the cop call Mike over to tell him that if he had come around that corner in his wheelchair on one wheel at that exact moment he would have shot him dead right there!

    I never forgot that. I don't care how far I have to walk! DR
    I know it happens i just never park close to where they are so i don't see it....I try to avoid door ding areas in parking lots.
    My view is if you don't need a handicap spot and don't have the hang tag and use one because it is convenient....Your a special kind of...........
    (Fill in the blank)........

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    Definitely would be a legal issue in NYC.
    Then again, she never would have gotten a carry permit.
    Never admit that you employed deadly physical force by shooting to wound, or just to wing him.
    That opens up a whole can of worms.
    Otherwise well done.

    Parking lot video.

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    I really can not see anything wrong with shooting some assailant in the leg. I was at a meeting of our Sheriffs Volunteer group.
    It was at a local Colledge, they had set up a shoot/don't shoot system. The Lazer gun was a Glock 17.

    The first portion, 6 plates. Shot those down, then you were supposed to be a Police Officer. Responding to a 911 call.
    A person who had been fired was making a scene. The start was you witnessing an irate young man, who had just been escorted out of the office building. Stepped into his SUV, promptly stepped out again, with a handgun. Escort shouted, "He has a gun" and promptly ran back through the swing door. I called out the Police challenge, when he did not stop his slow advance to the door, I shot him twice in the left leg. Video stopped, hits observed. Range about 6 yards. One of the Officers told me to come in Monday, to apply for a job! I told him 83 YOA might be a bit old!
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    He is lucky it was't my daughter. On a 3d archery range with traditional equipment, there is never a standing bear target that does not get castrated, no matter the range. She says she never does it on purpose. it just happens. I'd hate to see what would happen with a ccw permit. She'd have to be lucky enough to have another female officer respond. They'd probably burst out giggling on camera.
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    By the article it sounds like she did just fine given the situation. No, I don't like purse carry either, but there it is. She screamed for help, nobody. She pulls her lil'buddy and stops the attack, well, here comes the cavalry!


    Ain't that how it always happens though...?

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    I'm glad the parking monitor didn't die for his goofy interference, but I'll bet he thinks long and hard about doing it again. Stupid is as stupid does. The lady did what was necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Temkin View Post
    Definitely would be a legal issue in NYC.
    Then again, she never would have gotten a carry permit.
    Never admit that you employed deadly physical force by shooting to wound, or just to wing him.
    That opens up a whole can of worms.
    Otherwise well done.

    Parking lot video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entertainment72 View Post
    How could she defend herself without carrying a Ramboesque tactical load out, roll around in the dirt, fire thousands of rounds at weekend training followed by tactical backflips for good measure?

    Guess now it's time for her to spend thousands of dollars on weekend warrior courses to make sure she can really defend herself in the future.
    How do you know she didn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Also, it seems like it was a non vital, single shot that stopped the assault.
    Since she also carried it in her purse, I would assume it was not exactly a cannon.
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    My wife used to carry a 45 in her purse.
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    “I’m screaming for help at the top of my lungs. No one would help me. I was scared. I felt like my life was in danger,” she said.
    “I didn’t want to shoot to kill… I felt like I didn’t need to do anything more. All I wanted was help, and that was my help,” she said.
    These are great quotes for anyone being questioned about the validity of a self defense scenario. The "didn't want to shoot to kill" can be worded many ways, but the conclusion is I just wanted them to stop. I didn't want to die.
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    When I lived in Toronto, I worked for Glock for two years, selling 6,000.00 Glock pistols to Toronto Police. Whilst walking to a plaza, across the parking lot. Going to buy new dart flights. With my Buddy Deputy Chief of Police. He was a fantastic Dart player.

    As we passed a parked Van, backed into a Handicapped spot. Sitting in the driver's seat, a Jamaican. How did I know? he spoke.
    When Peter saw me stop, he walked on! He had known me a while. I said "You are in a handicapped spot," I said. "I only gown be here a while," He said. I answered him thus. "Do you want to become eligible for that spot?" The engine started, he left. He might have recognised the Scouse accent, I recognised his.

    The question, do you know how vulnerable you are, stepping out of a Van. With a PXXXXd off Scouse waiting for you. Remember this is not the USA, that was Toronto. Don't know what I would do here in Orlando? It has never happened yet. I have calmed down quite a bit, in 40 years. A good question that could stop an altercation. "Do you like Hospital food?" Just a harmless question, yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    When I lived in Toronto, I worked for Glock for two years, selling 6,000.00 Glock pistols to Toronto Police. Whilst walking to a plaza, across the parking lot. Going to buy new dart flights. With my Buddy Deputy Chief of Police. He was a fantastic Dart player.

    As we passed a parked Van, backed into a Handicapped spot. Sitting in the driver's seat, a Jamaican. How did I know? he spoke.
    When Peter saw me stop, he walked on! He had known me a while. I said "You are in a handicapped spot," I said. "I only gown be here a while," He said. I answered him thus. "Do you want to become eligible for that spot?" The engine started, he left. He might have recognised the Scouse accent, I recognised his.

    The question, do you know how vulnerable you are, stepping out of a Van. With a PXXXXd off Scouse waiting for you. Remember this is not the USA, that was Toronto. Don't know what I would do here in Orlando? It has never happened yet. I have calmed down quite a bit, in 40 years. A good question that could stop an altercation. "Do you like Hospital food?" Just a harmless question, yes?
    I don't think many outside England know what a "Scouse" accent is. I had never heard of it and had to look it up. Being an American and knowing someone is from Liverpool really means nothing unless their names are John, Paul, George or Ringo.

    I don't know about then, but now Toronto, OK Canada is another liberal cesspool. I know what Canadian Cops were like though. I know quite a few RCMP, OPP, Winnipeg officers. Heck I even shoot IDPA with an old Winnipeg cop. Forty years ago I don't think there would have been much difference how it was handled in either place. Today in either place you would likely get jacked up by the cops for instigating any altercation.
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