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    Lessons learned

    In a current running thread the question has been asked, does an instructor need to have had actual experience to be an expert. As posted my opinion is no.
    My opinion is that some instructors can and do pick up as well as do research, I my self have dropped a few nuggets. I know at least one instructor who has used that material.
    I'm not asking about statistics, I'm asking about actual nuggets of experience to share.
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    When things happen, they happen very, very fast.
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    As one who has been targeted (unsuccessfully) for victimization several times, disrupting the aggressors' OODA loop can be the difference between success and failure. I know lots of people dislike the term, but it is what it is.
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    I would prefer to have an instructor who has walked the walk, not just talked the talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spclopr8tr View Post
    I would prefer to have an instructor who has walked the walk, not just talked the talk.
    What does that mean, exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spclopr8tr View Post
    I would prefer to have an instructor who has walked the walk, not just talked the talk.
    This^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok View Post
    This^
    Again, what does that mean?
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    https://www.dictionary.com/e/expert-social-media-2019/

    The word expert has been in use since the 1300s … long before social media was a thing.

    It comes from the Latin expertus, meaning “to try” or “experience.” But in modern times, expert applies specifically to “a person who has special skills or knowledge in a particular field.” An expert is typically someone who specializes in a subject, to the extent that they are considered an authority. They’re someone who can engage with a subject from multiples angles and who has developed their knowledge over time, through a combination of research and experience. That cultivation takes time, lots of time, to develop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Again, what does that mean?
    People who are teaching based on experience doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok View Post
    People who are teaching based on experience doing it.
    And that experience should be verifiable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    And that experience should be verifiable.
    Practical demonstration of the skills being imparted work for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Practical demonstration of the skills being imparted work for me.
    “Instructors” can basically steal money from people when they demonstrate something and their audience is too inexperienced to know what they are looking at. Not saying that’s always the case, but it is sometimes.
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    Some knowledge may certainly be imparted without the experience.

    I have counseled people and helped them to die peacefully, and I'm still kicking. I have counseled people about drug and alcohol addiction, yet I've never been an addict. I have comforted grieving parents who have lost a child, yet I've never lost a child myself.

    On the other hand, when I sought flying lessons, I made certain the instructor was a real pilot.

    My cardiologist learned heart surgery with an experienced surgeon at the table.

    I have a friend who is a Spelunker. He learned about the dangers of cave exploration from an experienced Spelunker. He learned about the geology of caves from someone who had never set foot in a cave.

    So, for me, the answer is both yes and no. Some instruction may be gathered from those with no experience in the concrete. Other knowledge is only obtained from those who have been there and done that.

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    Without an agreed upon consensus of what it takes to be an expert to begin with, we'll have varying opinions on what constitutes an expert [ in todays parlance ].
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    At the risk of sounding silly, I never want to hire a plumber who is not an "expert" to unplug a stopped-up toilet. I think you can smell the difference.
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