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    My house alarm has a exit timer...You wanna see fast?....Watch me run the stairs and throw on a pair of Muck boots
    and get out of dodge.

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    Good question, AzQkr. My wife and I were at the range this past week and although we don't usually use a shot timer, we did this week because I wanted to impress on her the difference in draw times from her purse compared to on body. We didn't do any specific reload time drills, but I think my times were on the order of 3 seconds, possibly longer. That's dropping the spent magazine, pulling my spare mag for my P229 from under my cover garment, inserting the fresh magazine, and making the gun go bang again. I'll have to specifically time that next time we get to the range.
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    If the spare is in a pouch on my belt, I can do it in under 2 secs. If it's in the pocket... longer!
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    My magazine changes are abysmal!
    The last reloads I timed were with the S&W 36 and were in the 3-6 second range if I remember right.
    When you can't feel your fingers, fumbles are a normal occurrence.
    While I practice mag changes with both the G19 and the LCP, I would not want to rely on that skill.
    The LCP makes a convenient NY reload.

    Reality sucks sometimes. Another reason for shifting to a double stack 9mm over the 5 shot snub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    If the spare is in a pouch on my belt, I can do it in under 2 secs. If it's in the pocket... longer!
    well under at that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Extra clip?
    Make sure you put as many “bullets” as your clip will hold, then don’t forget to hit the “slide release.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaT View Post
    Make sure you put as many “bullets” as your clip will hold, then don’t forget to hit the “slide release.”
    Pedantry, a thinking man's game..
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    No matter how fast you are with a mag change, from what I've seen in FOF classes, and in the middle of the fight of your life YOU just lost. Unless you are behind cover, then being faster is better.

    I hope 14 rounds gets me through the hot and heavy part of the fight
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    I never timed my mag swap speed. I do it fast though because I count my shots. I carry 6+1. When six goes bang the fully loaded mag is about to be grabbed. I do a one hand shot of round 7.
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    I carry a spare mag for malfunctions more or less. I'll need less than 13 rounds if I ever need one I hope.
    I practice mag changes, Never timed them. A little over 2 seconds if I had to guess ; )
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    Depends.....

    Good days, bad days, Murphy.......

    I have the reloads with the Glock down to about 1 second if I don't flub it and revolver @ 1.5 seconds. This is from running hundreds of matches on the timer.

    It takes alot longer when it is really cold around -20 to -40 because of all the layers......
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    Quote Originally Posted by mailman View Post
    No matter how fast you are with a mag change, from what I've seen in FOF classes, and in the middle of the fight of your life YOU just lost. Unless you are behind cover, then being faster is better.

    I hope 14 rounds gets me through the hot and heavy part of the fight
    That is why ANY good defensive shooting class should have a class about cover. My wife likes to walk in the mall..... Last night I spent a couple laps explaining cover vs concealment and showing her the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    My thoughts on it are that there are more important things to concentrate one’s precious practice time on. A timer on the range is good for setting a standard, but is not indicative of what happens when the shtf.
    It does give one a benchmark. Without a benchmark you have no accurate way to determine if you are doing well. Reloading is an important skill. Look up the Newhall, Ca incident. There was also a Dallas cop killed trying to reload his 1911 behind cover. It happens more often than one would think. Same goes for malfunction clearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    Claude Werner's study of 482 actual, documented non-LEO gunfights found only three situations where defenders reloaded, or 0.6% of the time. And one of those was a guy trying to stop an escaped tiger with a .32 auto. He succeeded, BTW, after 13 shots. So I am much more worried about ensuring I don't have to shoot to begin with, but if I do, the effect of my shots before I might need a reload. To me, reload times are not something I would ever worry about.
    Yup, reload times are irrelevant. Until they're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSafety View Post
    Yup, reload times are irrelevant. Until they're not.
    You could say that about almost anything. There was a gun writer I used to follow years ago. I can't remember his name offhand. He was Vietnam vet. He was a big fan of snubbies and he got asked, "What would you really want to have if you got in gunfight?"

    He said, "An M-60 with 300 rounds and a walkie talkie that I could direct artillery with. But that isn't all that practical here in the city, so I carry my snubby."

    Grant Cunningham likes to say, "A platoon of N. Korean paratroopers could land on your front lawn." Then whatever you have will be irrelevant.
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