Shotguns don't suck
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I have seen what a 12 gauge riot gun does ...
June 29th, 2017 12:26 PM
I prefer Federal Flight Control #1 Buckshot in my Benelli SuperNova Tactical Pump 12 gauge.
I have seen what a 12 gauge riot gun does to someone up close. It wasn't pretty.
I have done a lot of fishing in Viet Nam with concussion grenades.
I prefer options including 12 gauge, 5.56X45mm, 7.62X51mm, and 7.62X39.
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June 29th, 2017 12:35 PM
I'm with you on the FC. I patterned all my shotguns (870, 590A1, 930SPX, and Win 1300) and they all did extremely well with the Federal Flite Control. I got good results with #1, so I use that load (Federal LE132-1B). I only ran patterns out to 25 yards because that is the maximum distance I would ever have indoors.
Shotgun or AR? Different tools for different jobs. I can still reload a shotgun relatively quickly, but not anywhere near what comes easily with the AR. My wife and I have both in our bedroom, and given the situation, I will choose one or the other, and my wife takes the other one and backs me up.
June 29th, 2017 07:11 PM
I use them. I talked to the LE rep for Federal several years ago and have been sold on them. My 870 keeps about a 6" group @ 15 yards with them.
Originally Posted by mcp1810
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June 30th, 2017 08:40 AM
I also load #1 in the gun and OO on the stock. There was some decent ballistic testing a few years ago that indicated that #1 consistently had the desired penetration and that 16 x .30 (4.8) actually surpassed 9 x .33 (2.97), for frontal mass, so for the close in HD stuff the #1 load makes better sense.
Originally Posted by OldChap
June 30th, 2017 11:25 AM
Like most scenarios the answer is, "it depends".
A 12 gauge is a good weapon for many of the scenarios I foresee in my circumstances. We have nuisance bears and a 500 bed prison a mile from my house. There was a group of 7 inmates that were all felons who escaped several years ago and they headed for the nearest homes to get a change of clothes and a vehicle. They eventually caught them in Haiti and the Dominican Republic several years later.
You also need to tailor your defensive strategy to your tools, or vice versa. If I'm using a long gun, I probably won't be trying to clear my house. I'll hunker down, call the police and guard the door. I prefer the long gun for investigating problems outside the house.
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