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Self Defense Optics: Aimpoint vs Eotech

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  1. Gaius's Avatar

    Gaius said:

    Self Defense Optics: Aimpoint vs Eotech

    Rifle: Daniel Defense M4V5.
    Choice of optics: Aimpolint Pro or Eotech 512.
    My choice (for now) Aimpoint

    I own both optics, and like both of them. I will try and make this short. I have settled on the Aimpoint for purely practical reasons. With an effectively forever battery and "constant on" capability, the drill with the Aimpoint against the bad guy goes something like this: See bad guy, put dot on bad guy, pull trigger. With the Eotech, the drill is: see bad guy, fumble around for the buttons to turn the Eotech on, adjust the brightness of sight (maybe), put dot/reticle on bad guy, pull trigger if bad guy has kindly waited long enough for you to do so. Both scenarios are for very CQB situations, and I am not worrying about 100 yard plus shots. However, I have a three power magnifier that works quite well with either optic so that is not a factor. Thoughts?
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  2. glockman10mm's Avatar

    glockman10mm said:
    If I were going to depend on an electronic sight, it would be the Aimpoint for the same reasons you stated.
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    G26Raven said:
    Gaius, I too own both, with my first purchase being an Eotech for an AR15. I now own two Aimpoints, one on an MPX and one on an AR10. Definitely prefer the Aimpoint.
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  4. Chuck R.'s Avatar

    Chuck R. said:
    Between the 2..Aimpoint without a doubt.

    Honestly I wouldn't touch an Eotech after how they handled they're recall/buyback. They actually did a good job on the buyback, buuuuuut it took a while for them to acknowledge there were problems.
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    TSKnight said:
    Don't own an Eotech, but have two Aimpoint Pro's that I really like.

    The last 4 red dots I picked up were Holosun. One reflex and three red dots, all with the "shake awake" feature and at a price I can afford to have more than one.
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    LimaCharlie said:
    I would choose the Aimpoint for the reasons you stated. I go by the KISS principle, keep it stupid simple. My close quarters home defense rifles have iron sights. My longer range rifles have Burris scopes with etched and lighted reticles. If the battery is dead, the etched black reticle still works.
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    gasmitty said:
    I have both, as well - EOT 512 and Aimpoint Micro T-1. Given a heads-up of imminent need, I'll take the EOTech. I really like the 65 MOA ring - I don't lose time looking for the dot, and the 1 MOA dot gives me better precision at distant targets than the 4 MOA on my Micro. But the AR in the bedroom closet wears the Aimpoint for the no-fumble, instant-on feature, as well as phenomenal battery life.
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    Chuck808 said:
    For a home defense gun, it NEEDS to be on all the time. Period. Anything that isnít, is not something I would consider for home defense.
     
  9. AzQkr's Avatar

    AzQkr said:
    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    I have both, as well - EOT 512 and Aimpoint Micro T-1. Given a heads-up of imminent need, I'll take the EOTech. I really like the 65 MOA ring - I don't lose time looking for the dot, and the 1 MOA dot gives me better precision at distant targets than the 4 MOA on my Micro. But the AR in the bedroom closet wears the Aimpoint for the no-fumble, instant-on feature, as well as phenomenal battery life.
    I prefer the heads up display of the EO and the fact the 65MOA is much faster on close up work than the small dot, like you. I don't use either for gun for home defense.
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  10. G26Raven's Avatar

    G26Raven said:
    Of course, I also run BUIS on every carbine I own.
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    AzQkr said:
    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    Of course, I also run BUIS on every carbine I own.
    Here's what I run presently
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    The mind is the limiting factor

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    G26Raven said:
    Quote Originally Posted by AzQkr View Post
    Here's what I run presently
    Nice!
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    Gunnie said:
    I run both on different rifles. A standard Eotech 512 is what I use on my working rifle. Itís held up just find to getting banged around in and out of the car on door frames and hard use at the range. My Aimpoint has held up just fine on my 16Ē 308 it was on my work rifle before that. However Iíve been really impressed with a Sig Romeo 5 and am thinking about standardizing with it as I like the auto off feature and the fact it comes on when picked up. Also 2032 batteries are about as common as AA and itís considerably lighter then the other two.
     
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    Havok said:
    I like the design of the EO tech far better than aimpoint. However, I wonít put one of their sites on my gun because they are not truthful about their products. I now use aimpoint and sig red dots.
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    flh said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnie View Post
    I run both on different rifles. A standard Eotech 512 is what I use on my working rifle. Itís held up just find to getting banged around in and out of the car on door frames and hard use at the range. My Aimpoint has held up just fine on my 16Ē 308 it was on my work rifle before that. However Iíve been really impressed with a Sig Romeo 5 and am thinking about standardizing with it as I like the auto off feature and the fact it comes on when picked up. Also 2032 batteries are about as common as AA and itís considerably lighter then the other two.

    I did not know about the auto on feature when picked up , thankyou...





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