The perfect travel long gun?
This is a discussion on The perfect travel long gun? within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by OldChap
No substantiation whatsoever save my 10 years with the police department. How many automobile burglary calls have you worked?
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September 15th, 2019 11:51 AM
I think it has more to do with where you live. Where I live if you broke into 10 cars I would expect to find 5 to 7 guns! 40 miles away in Fresno you would be a fool to leave anything in your car. DR
Originally Posted by OldChap
September 15th, 2019 12:04 PM
I know This is not what the Op was looking at, But I own several Handi Rifles. I like them because I can break them down to fit in a day pack.
One of my favorite places to hunt coyotes, I have to park in a residential subdivision, start out hiking on a shared trail, and then about 3/4 of a mile out I cut off the trail and follow a fence line that separates cattle ranches from suburbs.
Without a compact rifle I would probably loose my access point! DR
September 15th, 2019 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CWOUSCG
September 15th, 2019 12:12 PM
For legal reasons, a rifle caliber pistol is popular in MI.
1) Our concealed license is a "concealed pistol license".
2) Any firearm within reach of an occupant of a vehicle is considered concealed. (see transportation: in the trunk, in a case, unloaded, etc.)
Therefore, the only way to have a firearm loaded in a vehicle is for it to be a pistol, and to have your CPL.
I'm a big CZ fan. I think guns like the Scorpion are loads of fun, but not practical or the best option for my state. I'm not a fan of pistol caliber carbines either, unless it fits a legal niche. The scorpion doesn't add much besides capacity over most duty size pistols. If I'm adding that much size and intend to add the brace (which makes it that much bigger), I want the added energy of a rifle cartridge.
There are lots of reasons to like the AR pistols. For the range of intended use, the velocity is going to be fine. Alternate calibers like 300 Blackout make even more sense. I just can't get past the buffer tube on a pistol.
Recoil rod rifle caliber pistols make more sense to me because of the folding brace option (like the Scorpion ). The 7.62x39 variants are easy to find. That cartridge hits just fine at pistol length barrels and (relatively) short ranges. It isn't as sexy as the 300, and probably doesn't have as many loading options, but it costs less too.
September 15th, 2019 12:28 PM
My concept of "perfect"; homebuilt .300 AAC, 9" barrel with a Maxim brace:
23" collapsed, fits in an elongated tennis racket case. Launches a 110 grn at 2175FPS. Not as loud as a short barreled .223, but still pretty easy to ring steel with it at 150-200. Doesn't reside in the truck, but goes on trips.
September 15th, 2019 12:31 PM
Which gun would be "perfect" would depend on a lot of things. Where you're going, who you're with, what sort of vehicle you're in, etc.
Do you travel with a long gun of some sort?
The long gun I'm most likely to travel with is the SUB2000:
Folded, it's only about 16" long, so it's easily stowed in a storage compartment in any of my vehicles. It shares 17-round mags with the M&P 9, and aftermarket 32-rounders are available (though I haven't tried one yet). I've just mounted an Osprey micro laser sight (which you can see in the pic if you look closely), which I think is a plus for this little carbine.
So, for MY purposes I think the SUB2000 is the "perfect" long gun for travel in terms of portability, concealability, and firepower. YMMV.
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September 15th, 2019 02:36 PM
That, the Scorpion, or the P90, all good options. Really nice thing about the P90 and a few similar options is the short muzzle past the trigger. Less reach is nice for maneuverability in small spaces, like hallways.
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September 15th, 2019 09:38 PM
I normally carry an Ak-47 with an under fold stock. It fits well between the center console and passenger seat. A 20 round mag saves some space.
September 15th, 2019 09:44 PM
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September 16th, 2019 10:48 AM
I have a falling block rifle with a 28" barrel. When I shoot the Quiets from it all I hear is the hammer fall, and the bullet striking the target! it's much quieter than my pellet guns! My wife was on the front porch talking on the phone to her sister, while I was shooting ground squirrels off the lawn. When she hung up she asked what are you doing? That's when they became my go to ammo for around the house! DR
Originally Posted by Risasi
September 16th, 2019 02:09 PM
Around here there’s no breaking into vehicles. And yeah, the trucks are all carrying. We don’t need to lock ours except when we go “far afield”.
I’ve never been more relieved than when my daughter moved away from Decatur alive and uninjured.
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September 16th, 2019 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Shootnlead
Originally Posted by OldVet
Not being argumentative here, but I’ve wondered about this a lot. In reality, if you hide and lock a firearm in the trunk of a sedan and don’t have anything visible in the passenger area, how likely are you to first; be broken into; and second how likely will a handgun hidden in the trunk be stolen? I think not likely. I’ve not been broken into in over 50 years of driving.
Originally Posted by OldChap
Obviously, where you are parked, and what you do while exiting the vehicle (while possibly being observed by a potential thief) may have a bearing on the likelihood of a break in.
With respect, what am I missing?
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