Question for you M1 Garand guys

Question for you M1 Garand guys

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    Question for you M1 Garand guys

    Starting my search for a garand.
    Do any of you have any opinions on good gauges to measure head space and muzzle and throat erosion on the barrel
    Do not want to spend a lot but do not want crap either.
    Want to check out prospective rifles to avoid too many problems or shot out barrels.
    Thanks
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    A lot of folks at the range I shot at for many years bought a Garand. As far as I know, all of them had purchased from the CMP here:

    Home - Civilian Marksmanship Program

    I was told they are the absolute best source. They have different grade ranging all the way to armory rebuilt ones with new components. If you haven't ever looked, you might check them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    A lot of folks at the range I shot at for many years bought a Garand. As far as I know, all of them had purchased from the CMP here:

    Home - Civilian Marksmanship Program

    I was told they are the absolute best source. They have different grade ranging all the way to armory rebuilt ones with new components. If you haven't ever looked, you might check them out.
    Yes I have seem the CMP ones, but may be interested in a couple of local ones from private purchasers.
    Guy who works in same company as I has one his uncle left him and I want to check it out before I buy it.
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    I'm told the real issue in shopping for one is, "Is this a real Garand?" To be sure, most people I've talked to who own one, want either a pure shooter, or a collectible. I'm sure someone who is a Garand guru (that almost "sings" doesn't it?) will stop by soon. Good luck on your quest.
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    Do you want a shooter or a collector? The price difference between the two categories is ....staggering. I'm a member of the Garand Collectors Association and can tell you that I've never seen one from CMP that was terrible or over-priced IMHO.
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    Looking for a nice shooter, not a collector.
    CMP does seem the way to go, but looks like I will come across some in private hands and want to have the gauges to measure them.
    So my original question is on the gauges not where to buy one.
    Thanks for your help though
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    Throat erosion gauge. The one for the Garand also checks the muzzle.
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    Brownells not only provides throat-erosion gauges, but also they sell headspace gauges too.
    I suggest that, if you really want to check a rifle out completely, one no-go gauge and one go gauge are enough.

    One checks headspace with the rifle's own bolt, stripped of its extractor and firing pin.
    The bolt should be completely free of the rifle's operating rod, which can easily be pulled out of the way.
    The magazine follower should also be either removed or held down, away from the bolt.

    The stripped bolt should run open and closed freely, propelled only by gravity as one tips the rifle muzzle-up or muzzle-down.
    Insert a no-go gauge into the chamber, gently, by hand. Let the bolt run closed over it.
    Very gently, with very light fingertip pressure, try to seat the bolt lugs fully. This should not be possible. If it is possible, reject the rifle.

    One may have to use a cleaning rod, from the muzzle, to very gently push the no-go gauge out of the chamber.
    Now insert the go gauge, gently, by hand. Let the bolt run closed over it.
    Very gently, with very light fingertip pressure, try to seat the bolt lugs fully. The bolt should close very easily. If it doesn't, reject the rifle.
    Remove the go gauge, maybe with a cleaning rod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airslot View Post
    Throat erosion gauge. The one for the Garand also checks the muzzle.
    Thanks that is what I am looking for.
    Figures Brownell's would have it.
    Now just need to find a head space. Go no Go gauge. bet Brownells has that also
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    thanks for the information I needed.
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