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This is a discussion on Defensive shotgun load for wimpy shoulder? within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; As far as 12 gauge goes I prefer the hornady tap low recoil 00 buck 9 pellet with the versa tite wad. I had to ...

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    As far as 12 gauge goes I prefer the hornady tap low recoil 00 buck 9 pellet with the versa tite wad. I had to use my law enforcement credentials to get it as it's apparently restricted by hornady now for law enforcement use for some reason. Probably so they can charge more for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nmuskier View Post
    Maybe try a 12 gauge and a 20 gauge? I'm surprised you know the weights of each shotgun you've used.
    I gotta ask—why do you assume that those saying that the 20ga with a comparable load will have more recoil HAVEN’T shot a 20ga? Because I own shotguns I’m 12, 16, 20, 28, and .410...and I agree that a 20–shooting a load at the same weight and same velocity as a 12–DOES have more recoil; the 20 is built with a smaller receiver, and weighs less...and some guy named Ike Newton said quite some time ago something about equal and opposite reactions...quite bluntly, the math ain’t on your side, here.
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    Slightly Off-Subject:

    I wonder whether there's a way to pump Aguila mini-shells through an old Model 12.
    I'd want to use either slugs or 00 buck, I guess, assuming that the 00 buck load carried at least eight balls.

    Does anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1911A1 View Post
    Slightly Off-Subject:
    I wonder whether there's a way to pump Aguila mini-shells through an old Model 12.
    I'd want to use either slugs or 00 buck, I guess, assuming that the 00 buck load carried at least eight balls.

    Does anyone know?
    From what little I know, I believe there adapters for certain semi-autos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nmuskier View Post
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    Shotgun experience isn't on your side. But you are also welcome to come out with me this weekend.
    Yeah.

    Only been shooting them for over 30 years...

    But what would I know, right?

    We get it. You can’t admit when you’re wrong, good for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    Yeah.

    Only been shooting them for over 30 years...

    But what would I know, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    From what little I know, I believe there adapters for certain semi-autos.
    Yeah.
    None for old pump guns.
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    They're only made for Mossberg pumps, as far as I can see? https://opsolmini-clip.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nmuskier View Post
    You cannot admit the data input may be flawed. Good for you.
    Well, since according to Mossberg, there is a half pound difference between 12 and a 20ga comparable models (500 All Purpose Field, 28”) and Remington says there is a full pound (870 Express 28”)...they'd probably know what their shotguns weigh, no?

    Pretty simple math after that, unless you’re trying to claim Newton was wrong...
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    The 20 gauge with slugs and buck shot has about the same ballistics as a .44 magnum. There is no disputing the stopping power of the .44 magnum. Thus, 20 gauge should be more than enough to get the job done on two legged beasts easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nmuskier View Post
    You cannot admit the data input may be flawed. Good for you.
    What data is wrong? That like models of 12 and 20 ga guns are not the same weight? or if you shoot a lighter and heavier gun with the same load that the lighter will recoil more?
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    I've scanned thru many of these posts and have yet to see anyone suggest a good recoil pad. I am more sensitive to the recoil of a shoulder fired firearm than a handgun and my Remington 870 shotgun and large caliber rifles all sport slipon Limbsaver pads. It makes shooting magnum slugs a lot easier on the shoulder to shoot.
    https://limbsaver.com/collections/fi...-on-recoil-pad

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    OP - I have a 12 g Shockwave I could part with. The ranges around here only allow slugs in shotguns, and that gets expensive in a hurry.

    No worries about the shoulder with those. They handle recoil surprisingly well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duane_wade View Post
    I've scanned thru many of these posts and have yet to see anyone suggest a good recoil pad. I am more sensitive to the recoil of a shoulder fired firearm than a handgun and my Remington 870 shotgun and large caliber rifles all sport slipon Limbsaver pads. It makes shooting magnum slugs a lot easier on the shoulder to shoot.
    https://limbsaver.com/collections/fi...-on-recoil-pad

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    I’m sensitive to recoil, and in the same sentence I LOVE RECOIL! Recoil junky, like big guns that go boom. I got a shoulder pad, here’s two pic’s (NOT ME) I grabbed off the net, the first one is like mine, the girl wearing one makes it look comfortable but she’s lying lol, they just don’t make those things that work well on a woman’s body.

    That being said, when I can get this pad in place I can shoot longer and don’t hurt as bad after 😊

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