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    I believe it all begins with mindset. I feel that there is a mental methodology that is closely related to personal safety. All the gear in the world wont do you much good if you don't have the mental grit and fortitude to act and act properly when the time comes. When I say properly I mean "measured" , "controlled deliberateness". The first time you think and come to terms with what you are willing to do in x y z circumstance doesn't need to be in that millisecond after bad deeds have happened. When people ask me how they should begin, I tell them to find a reputable tactical school that offers a force on force element to their training and start taking classes. There are a couple of good books that I recommend one is the book of 5 rings and the other is meditations on violence. Most people learn best by "doing" so getting to a school is paramount in my estimation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefensiveCarry View Post


    What advice would you give someone just getting started with self defense?

    Would you advise them to get specialized training at their local shooting range? Why? Why not?

    Could they get started with the basics by simply going to the range with an experienced friend or family member? Why? Why not?

    Would you advise more than just firearms training? What about other weapons?
    There are great responses here. I would like to approach it from a different direction. You know those movies where our hero punches the bad guy and he doesn't flinch? Then all of a sudden you see reality dawning on the good guy (think Bruce Willis). My point is that as far as pistols go, they are not the be-all and end-all of weapons. FBI numbers (and these can be backed up by using simple math the next time you hear monthly or annual numbers from Chicago) indicate that 6 of 7 of those shot with a pistol (85%) survive. Even if they don't, they often live long enough to finish what they started. IOW, don't be overconfident about having this new super power. The more you realize this, the more you understand how it is best to avoid the problem in the first place, if at all possible.
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    At age 61 I decided to buy my first handgun for self defense. I had a friend take me shooting and really liked it. So I purchased a Ruger SR40C and then decided, I need some training. Groupon had a deal for a basic Handgun 101 with range time and a follow up CHL Class (Not at the same time). The woman teaching the class was. So about 3 Months later I am holding my Texas CHL. I realize my shooting skills are WANTING. So I call the trainer and she offers me a really good deal on Two Hour Training Sessions (one on one). Best money I ever spent.Getting Started With Self Defense-g17-01-09-2016-c-2-.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy42 View Post
    Self defense is a state of mind. You can be the best shot in the world and it might not help you want to self-defense situation if you don't have the proper mindset. I know that might not necessarily answer the Ops questionbut as far as I'm concerned The types and kinds of training differs between individual. Start with the basics and advance at your own pace and needs. That's the best advice I can offer
    "Proper mindset".... I am attending a concealed carry class today, that's going to be my guide. Thank you.
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    Agreed with Qkari. There's some excellent advice in this thread Well worth the read

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    It depends on so many things and when that is the situation, you have to start with principles and then see how you can apply the principles to the practical world. The principles, in my view:

    1. SA can never be depended on, but I think working on it reduces risk and there are some very basic habits people can practice that will improve it. Everyone should read up on the basics of SA and work on it every day.

    2. H2H should be the basis of SD training. I think someone with no H2H capability is vulnerable to being overpowered at close range and never being able to get to a weapon. And H2H training teaches you stuff about balance, body awareness, force-on-force that supports weapons training. What kind of H2H training? It depends on your physical capabilities and what training you have available in your area.

    People worry too much about martial arts "styles." If the training program is solid, the instructor is good, you like it and it is convenient for you, you will be more likely to do it. The perfect style with a bad instructor is not good. The perfect style you hate, or can't get to or can't afford is not good because you won't put in the time. As Bruce Lee said, "I don't fear the man with 1,000 techniques. I fear the man with one technique he has practiced 1,000 times." Find a place that will teach you a few good techniques and will motivate you to practice them correctly 1,000 times.

    Also, some styles are not appropriate for some people. If you have physical impairments, if you are petite, or you are getting on in years, you can get yourself seriously injured in some of the more athletic styles. And you don't need to be an athlete to defend yourself in most street situations. I'm not saying athleticism is not a possible asset, it can be. But a child, a petite person, a disabled person or an old person can learn to defend themselves very well, but the approach is different. Athletic styles will not necessarily teach them "weak against strong" techniques.

    3. Get some private instruction on shooting. It should include gun and holster selection, basic marksmanship and safe gun handling. Then take a defensive shooting class. The reason I think that is a good progression is you are going to get a lot more out of the class if you have those fundamentals down first. New students can get self conscious and feel behind the power curve in a group. If you have the basics down, you are more able to learn the later stuff. When I started taking formal training, I was already a safe gun handler, I already had equipment I knew inside and out and in a lot of cases, I was a better shot than the instructors. But I did not think the training was a waste. To the contrary, I felt I got more out the classes than those with no experience.

    4. After that, be self-directed. Determine your priorities and your budget of money and time for training and practice, as well as what is available to you. Also determine what weaknesses you have in the SD realm. I know a lot of people who love shooting, so they do a lot of it, but ignore H2H because they don't like it, and vice versa. They get out of balance in facing likely threats. What good is it that you can do 25 yard head shots if someone jumps you, pins you to the ground and starts pounding your head in? Conversely, what good is it that you can take someone to the ground and choke them out of you encounter an active shooter at a distance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    It depends on so many things and when that is the situation, you have to start with principles and then see how you can apply the principles to the practical world. The principles, in my view:

    1. SA can never be depended on, but I think working on it reduces risk and there are some very basic habits people can practice that will improve it. Everyone should read up on the basics of SA and work on it every day.

    2. H2H should be the basis of SD training. I think someone with no H2H capability is vulnerable to being overpowered at close range and never being able to get to a weapon. And H2H training teaches you stuff about balance, body awareness, force-on-force that supports weapons training. What kind of H2H training? It depends on your physical capabilities and what training you have available in your area.

    People worry too much about martial arts "styles." If the training program is solid, the instructor is good, you like it and it is convenient for you, you will be more likely to do it. The perfect style with a bad instructor is not good. The perfect style you hate, or can't get to or can't afford is not good because you won't put in the time. As Bruce Lee said, "I don't fear the man with 1,000 techniques. I fear the man with one technique he has practiced 1,000 times." Find a place that will teach you a few good techniques and will motivate you to practice them correctly 1,000 times.

    Also, some styles are not appropriate for some people. If you have physical impairments, if you are petite, or you are getting on in years, you can get yourself seriously injured in some of the more athletic styles. And you don't need to be an athlete to defend yourself in most street situations. I'm not saying athleticism is not a possible asset, it can be. But a child, a petite person, a disabled person or an old person can learn to defend themselves very well, but the approach is different. Athletic styles will not necessarily teach them "weak against strong" techniques.

    3. Get some private instruction on shooting. It should include gun and holster selection, basic marksmanship and safe gun handling. Then take a defensive shooting class. The reason I think that is a good progression is you are going to get a lot more out of the class if you have those fundamentals down first. New students can get self conscious and feel behind the power curve in a group. If you have the basics down, you are more able to learn the later stuff. When I started taking formal training, I was already a safe gun handler, I already had equipment I knew inside and out and in a lot of cases, I was a better shot than the instructors. But I did not think the training was a waste. To the contrary, I felt I got more out the classes than those with no experience.

    4. After that, be self-directed. Determine your priorities and you budget of money and time for training and practice, as well as what is available to you. Also determine what weaknesses you have in the SD realm. I know a lot of people who love shooting, so they do a lot of it, but ignore H2H because they don't like it, and vice versa. They get out of balance in facing likely threats. What good is it that you can do 25 yard head shots if someone jumps you, pins you to the ground and starts pounding your head in? Conversely, what good is it that you can take someone to the ground and choke them out of you encounter an active shooter at a distance?
    That's well elucidated sir, mirrors what my response would have been to this older thread
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