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You've asked about it or questioned it five times now, and we've answered. We are responding to you, not vice versa.
My question about Multiple Choice tests was sarcasm, to illustrate that we do not "vet" or "approve" anyone for membership, and hence, anyone is allowed to start a thread or ask questions.
You are the one that continues to ask questions, and question motives behind, "Featured Topics"
If I have this backwards, let me know. Post #166 may clarify the matter.
I don't think too many mass shooters have been stopped by a "Gun Free Zone" sign.
I have to wonder if a mass shooter would be less likely to choose a location (for this kind of stupidity) if he knew that there was likely to be multiple people in the area that could shoot back.
While it is impossible know how many shootings have been prevented by a GFZ Sign, we do know many are in GFZs.
Then get those number for multiple neighborhoods.
If they are similar, it would certainly stand to reason that someone is less likely to commit a crime using a gun when they could be facing armed opposition (which is what my guess would be).
'Kind of like the number of homes with alarm systems that get broken into, versus those without...
If Obergefell would not have appealed, the decision would never have come up, the supremes would not have ruled, and the status quo would have remained.
Gun rights advocates might have to wait for a more opportune time to get infringements overturned. That is all I was saying.
The antis just don't understand the depth of love & bonding that comes with guns - redbirddog5
2nd AMENDMENT: The gateway drug to freedom addiction.
This shouldn't even be a question. Castrating oneself in hopes that thy neighbor will stop having kids never worked. So banning guns anywhere does what... Nothing except empower evil.
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No more gun free zones... it is getting so bad around my area, Northern VA, that If you carry all day and respect all the gun free zones you are disarming and arming again in your car all day, especially if you respect all the posted retail establishments, all the while trying to keep handling out of public view. As we all know the more you handle the greater chance of ND. The GFZ are making things less safe in more ways than one. But more on topic. Yes College campuses are not safe as we have seen repeatedly. My daughter is just starting college now and I was forced to arm her with pepper spray and a small tactical flashlight and send her off to school.
"To disarm the people...is the most effectual way to enslave them." - George Mason
"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samuel Adams
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I understand your point. But, the SCOTUS seems oddly a political rather then judicial when is involves the 2A. How any of highly experienced judge sitting on the SCOTUS bench can't understand "... shall not infringed" over 2 centuries is mind boggling to me, if politics were not involved. It is like what is happening with gun control in California? The State clearing understands the Heller and Macdonald rulings, but they intentional are bulking against those rulings. Why would they push unless they feel confident that the political timing is at their best political interest? The Split SCOTUS and Clinton might be the new POTUS in few months, if so then the 2A rulings will be flipped based on any new facts but solely on their political-biased interpretation of those last three words.
The most profound statement in the entire bill of rights was placed in line on the second amendment; "Shall not be infringed"! I find it to be a very intuitive move on the part of our founding fathers. 110% of the focus is how to re define, "Shal not be infringed", a different way so it can be eliminated altogether. This alone is a just reason to see that Trump makes POTUS. Our children's future does matter. Gun free zones could be ruled against according to Dred Scott v. Sandford & Bliss v. Commonwealth. I see the 2A as American defining.
Every time we allow another ruling which changes the Bill of Rights only makes it easier for another change to be made.
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them." John Wayne
NRA member 18 yrs.
Yes, Guns should be allowed on College Campuses. Gun Free Zones do not prevent violence. If someone is going to commit an act of violence, a sign posted that the are is Gun Free is not going to prevent that. The 2A states that the rights of the people shall not be infringed on and doesn't designate certain areas where you can and cannot carry a gun. People have a right to protect themselves no matter where they are.
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