This is a discussion on Should Guns Be Permitted on College Campuses? within the Featured Topics forums, part of the Welcome To DefensiveCarry.com category; Originally Posted by JoeLiberty I know that feel. So to sum up, you are actually for campus carry provided it is implemented similar to the ...
A concern that I have (conspiracy theory, if you will :-) is that Trump will just say whatever he needs to in order to get in office, then once he is there all bets are off.
Wait a minute, that seems to be what every politician does.
yes they should, no reason for banning them.
students are not shooting each other. they are for the most part more interested in learning how to make money.
AT least for the moment, Trump says he will support the 2A and no more restrictions on it. He believes Americans have the right to bear arms. We can only trust that he does not need the money. Trust that he wont be bought like a politician. He does say he believes in the constitution. Not the best choice but he is the only choice. I think he will surround himself with the best of the best. Determine to make America Great again. He is not a politician. Not a Conspiracy.
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them." John Wayne
NRA member 18 yrs.
First I'll answer the question posed by the OP. YES, guns should be allowed in the classroom. No there are not any places that should be "gun free zones." People with CCW's have undergone training , many of them more than some police officers and military members receive. Most of them have invested their time and money in learning to handle their tools. Few police officers do this.
You probably have noticed, but have not made the connection, that the military often DOES have its members bring their guns into 'the barracks' in combat zones. On a college campus, the entire campus can become a combat zone in a heartbeat.
1911srule seems to be mainly concerned with the storage of the firearm when the CCW holder is not present. It's a simple matter to take care of. I know students who live in dorms. They've installed a steel safe in the closet that's bolted to the studs in the wall. When they move out, they'll patch the holes, dab some paint on the patches, and no one will be any the wiser. It's not that hard to secure a firearm in such a structure.
A. Barracks overseas everybody has their guns in their rooms.
B. How well did disarming the military in their own house work out at FT. Hood.
First off yes they should be allowed on college campuses.
Your statement " Can you imagine firearms in college dorms" 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s and up through the 1980s, I'm sure there are people on this forum that had guns in their college dorm rooms, in fact I'm sure there are people on this board that took their hunting rifles to high school, and left them in their lockers or even in the principals office.
Suddenly when the internet was available to the masses in the early 1990's we apparently all became stupid.
I read the first post and skipped to the end. I'm sure my blood pressure would be sky high if I'd read all the posts. So if I'm covering previous points I apologize.
Firearms and concealed carry should absolutely be allowed on school campuses for all who are legal to carry. Gun free schools are a fools choice pipe dream as are most other gun free zones. We've allowed for, the most part, the liberal left take over our education system and we need to take it back.
When I was in college so many years ago we ole Arkie rednecks had all sorts of guns on campus. Times were simpler then and we didn't concern ourselves about CCW. However the bottom line was there wasn't ever a firearm problem on my college's campus while I was there.
Currently in Arkieville there is one public school district that allows it's teachers to CCW. The AR State Police at first said they couldn't allow that but finally backed down after the school district said they'd put their teachers through security guard training and treat them as such. The ASP leadership is vehemently anti carry. They only embrace it because of the revenue stream. It's now legal for college staff to carry *IF* the college board allows them to do so. If I understand correctly there are a few private schools that have staff and teachers who CCW. Good reason to send your kids to private schools IMO.
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Gun free zones actually become convenient killing fields for criminals who know that few people in such a zone will be armed.
Everyone (well, stupid/ignorant people may not know this) knows that there is really no such thing as a "gun free zone", except perhaps airplanes or public buildings that are protected with security checkpoints, metal detectors, etc.
Criminals can, do, and will enter any place they please with guns, regardless of whether a place has been designated as a "gun free zone" or not. And for that matter, many law abiding citizens will also carry weapons (concealed) in "gun free zones" so as to not be defenseless if a criminal should decide to go ballistic in said "gun free zone".
So, unless a place will fully implement procedures designed to virtually guarantee that a place is truly gun free (by use of metal detectors and searches), it should NOT be designated as a gun free zone.
"Law makers" pass laws and make regulations thinking that they are creating solutions to problems. They do that because it is their JOB. We hired them as "law makers" to "make laws"!
The problem is that making laws often simply restricts the freedom of law abiding people, whereas the great many who choose to not obey such laws are able to carry out whatever their intent may be, knowing that the law abiding citizens, in situations where there are prohibitive laws regarding having/possessing firearms, will likely be relatively defenseless. So, passing such laws is often a futile attempt to do something, when in fact relatively little is actually done merely by passing laws. And damage is done to law abiding citizens by such laws.
To a great degree, law makers are wasting our money and causing more problems than they solve!
We need strict term limits on those we elect to make our laws. The problem here is that they are the ones who determine what limits there may be on their terms. And the relatively ignorant electorate doesn't pay enough attention to politics to reign in so many bad politicians. Bad juju.
We have a good system, but it's so out of whack and out of control - which is entirely the fault of a largely ignorant or uninterested electorate (the PEOPLE) who don't pay enough attention to the process and to voting.
“Inequality" is a law of nature, not something government can "re-distribute”. The fit, well-educated, hard-working will prosper. And the unfit will not. It is not the responsibility of those who work hard and prosper to make the lives of those who do not, more “equal."
it is good and bad at the same time. because these kid are definitely going to abuse the rate to protect themselves