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Advantages and Disadvantages of Open Carry vs Concealed carry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicksPlace View Post
    My gut tells me, here in an area that that will give you a concealed carry permit with little cost and little effort, to carry concealed. I see some open carry locally and I wonder why? With a permit we can carry legally in more places and make fewer people uncomfortable.

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    Why? For the same reason they would carry concealed....

    Maybe they dont think they should need to seek approval from the govt first?
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    Why? For the same reason they would carry concealed....
    I carry concealed in an effort to maximize my options in a self defense situation with circumstances which can vary widely. I carry concealed because I have no interest in activism, attention, education or social conditioning. I would say that the reasons are likely a little different than the ones offered by proponents of OC.
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    Simple, I don't care to advertise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizban View Post
    I carry concealed in an effort to maximize my options in a self defense situation with circumstances which can vary widely. I carry concealed because I have no interest in activism, attention, education or social conditioning. I would say that the reasons are likely a little different than the ones offered by proponents of OC.
    So in your eyes, any one who OC's does it for Have a lot to learn. activism, attention, education or social conditioning.! Depends on what part of this country you live in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizban View Post
    I carry concealed in an effort to maximize my options in a self defense situation with circumstances which can vary widely. I carry concealed because I have no interest in activism, attention, education or social conditioning. I would say that the reasons are likely a little different than the ones offered by proponents of OC.
    I agree... to most of that. Now, I am for pushing more pro-gun laws, etc. and involved in that, but I'm not out yelling and screaming at street corners about it either.

    BUT ... (you knew there was a BUT) ..... If what I am is doing is legal ..... then leave me alone to do it. Period. I don't care if someone likes it, doesn't like it, would do it / not do it, or anything else.

    A guy who didn't like that I parked in the street just past her driveway ..... went ballistic that part of my car was on his side of the property line. He didn't want anyone to have their car there. He's on a corner and this is far to the back side of his house on the street... no biggy. His house faces South and my daughters faces East on the side street to his house. Now, I'm legally parked on a city street, right. It's quite legal and this guy has nothing to say about it, which is what I told him.

    This guy went into a screaming rage .... so loud people called the police, the guy then goes off on the police officer , gets chest to chest to him and he calls for assistance. The Calvary shows up ..... as I am standing back 25-30 ft way and heard on his radio the dispatcher put out a "officer in trouble " call. Dispatcher had heard the guy screaming in the officer's face when he called for assistance and elevated it.

    The Cavalry showed up ..... they are instantly trying to see what , who , and control the situation. There is no "situation" to control other then this neighbor and his wife, of my daughters.

    So, it gets down to ..... this guy is demanding I move the car, so the Police Chief is there (yep, he showed up to when that call went out) and asked me ..... will you just move your car. My answer .... NO .

    Sheriff's officers were there and were the majority. He asked why not ... it would make him happy.
    MY answer; my job in life is not to satisfy this guy's whims, nor to put up with his screaming, threatening me. etc.a and to the point he's threatening a police office and creates such a scene that you guys are also called. He continues by doing chest bumps and screaming at the officer . He should be going to jail for threatening me, assault on an officer, disorderly conduct and I'm sure a host of other things. But you want ME to appease him...... for something I'm doing legally because of why ?
    IF what I am doing is illegal .... talk to me and do what you are going to do. BUT ..... if what I am doing is legal ... I don't think any of you have a thing to say to me, and neither does he. So..... I'm not moving it. And if you want ... write the $7 traffic ticket, I'll see you in the City Court along with pictures of where and how it was parked, and make you look like an idiot to the Judge... as she throws it out of court.

    If what I'm doing is legal..... you have no need to talk to me about any of it. Period. The Sheriff Officers standing there all said the same thing, we agree with you totally....... in other words, they did not agree with the Police Chief at all.

    Now the rest of the story ..... the guy, is a friend of one of the Police Chief's friends, who is on the City Council. Now, ask me if I care.
    The guy ... was not arrested and not charged for anything. The car.... didn't move until I left to go home.

    I feel the same way about open carry ..... it's legal, .... no need to talk to me about anything.... and don't care who does or doesn't like it... if what I'm doing is legal... leave me alone and find someone else in life to harass. I was carrying for years working in LE for the State. I don't think I need to give anyone my bio or my entire life history nor my reasons for it either, when I do it. I'll be concealed when I want or think it wise, and open when I want and feel that serves my purpose better.

    I think debating it, is a waste of time. Everyone should do whichever suits their desires, wants and needs, and do it wisely & safely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatCong View Post
    So in your eyes, any one who OC's does it for Have a lot to learn. activism, attention, education or social conditioning.! Depends on what part of this country you live in.
    Generally speaking, .. yes, I think its typically one of those reasons.
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    I think debating it, is a waste of time. Everyone should do whichever suits their desires, wants and needs, and do it wisely & safely.
    There are people who have not yet decided.. and those people can likely benefit from the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizban View Post
    There are people who have not yet decided.. and those people can likely benefit from the discussion.
    I don't .... because the bottom line is, it's whatever works well for them, and only they can decide that. There are so many opinions and reasons (some based upon unfounded assumptions) that it's absurd. The debate does not clarify much of anything ... it just rambles on and on ... and in the end, they are going to do whatever it is they were going to do anyway. The purpose of the debate often seems to be ...... to debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    IThe purpose of the debate often seems to be ...... to debate.
    Sometimes it may be helpful to a new person, or give someone a different perspective....sometimes.


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    Back in the late 80s a good friend of mine, and room mate, had an Uzi and an AR. I had fun shooting them with him, matter of fact we reloaded all week and shot it all up on Sunday. Wash, rinse, repeat! but I didn't see the point to owning one myself. I really didn't see the purpose and didn't give a hoot about them. During the 90s all the gun mags were filled with black gun articles, so much so that I canceled my subscriptions. When the AWB came out I wasn't too upset because it didn't affect me.

    I've grown up, politically speaking, and realize how foolish I was to not support black guns just because I didn't want one. I feel the same about Open Carry. I may not wish to OC but I will support those that do in every way possible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DefensiveCarry View Post



    Even if we as individuals might never choose to open carry, should we be supportive of open carry laws ? Why? Why not?
    Whether or not we choose to open carry, as a 2nd Amendment advocacy community we should definitely support open carry laws. The reason is simple- restrictions on guns and the 2nd Amendment always lead to more restrictions.

    While I personally support open carry, constitutional carry etc.... I sincerely wish more people would take the bare minimum steps to get their CCW. I believe any level of training and awareness is better than nothing at all. But I won't support anything that gives the antis any leverage. Ultimately, the more "guns we have in the open" or "out of the barn" the more difficult it is to place restrictions on them.

    Take CA for example. They are even trying to place restrictions on grandfathered guns, magazines etc... So even law abiding citizens can have their legal guns "delegitimized" well after the fact. No thanks.
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    I support it , but here in Mass (the socialist republic of mass which BTW is an open carry state...technically) if you
    open carry it will cause a libtard meltdown the cops will get called and the chief will deem you "Inappropriate" and pull your license.
    Isn't that swell? I CC because I would rather not have anyone know my business, no one "needs" to know if I am carrying or not
    except my wife and my daughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmanick View Post
    I support it , but here in Mass (the socialist republic of mass which BTW is an open carry state...technically) if you
    open carry it will cause a libtard meltdown the cops will get called and the chief will deem you "Inappropriate" and pull your license.
    Isn't that swell? I CC because I would rather not have anyone know my business, no one "needs" to know if I am carrying or not
    except my wife and my daughter.
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    I prefer CC. I do not like advertising ,'look , I have a firearm on my person '. If I had a ranch , farm or a lot of acreage I might OC.
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    The element of surprise is a vital advantage to overcoming an aggressor. By removing the element of surprise you have two disadvantages to overcome instead of one, which could easily cost you your life: 1. Initiative(hopefully you are not the one Initiating) and 2. Your opponent now has the element of surprise over you. If you are ever in a fair fight, your tactics suck. CC is the only practical way of carrying any concealable weapon. Just my 2 cents.
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