New 4473 is Coming

New 4473 is Coming

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    New 4473 is Coming

    Looks like the ATF has caved to political correctness. "Non-binary" gender is now a choice.

    The ATF’s New 4473 is Coming: Here are the Changes, Requirements, How to Get Them

    ATF’s new 4473 is now available for pre-order. The new 4473s will start shipping in late July 2020 and all FFLs must start using the new 4473 on November 1, 2020.

    If you’re an FFL that would like updates on these topics or help understanding ATF Compliance requirements, you might want to check out RocketFFL’s ATF Compliance program....

    The most notable changes are the inclusion of the firearm information at the top of page one instead of page three, the change of “county” to “county/parish/borough,” and the addition of “non-binary” to the gender.


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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    Looks like the ATF has caved to political correctness. "Non-binary" gender is now a choice.

    The ATF’s New 4473 is Coming: Here are the Changes, Requirements, How to Get Them

    ATF’s new 4473 is now available for pre-order. The new 4473s will start shipping in late July 2020 and all FFLs must start using the new 4473 on November 1, 2020.

    If you’re an FFL that would like updates on these topics or help understanding ATF Compliance requirements, you might want to check out RocketFFL’s ATF Compliance program....

    The most notable changes are the inclusion of the firearm information at the top of page one instead of page three, the change of “county” to “county/parish/borough,” and the addition of “non-binary” to the gender.


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    I will scratch through that nonsensical "non-binary" option for one's sex just like I do for "gender" when referring to human sex identification.
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    I check a lot of "Declined to answer" blocks on forms these days.
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    What if someone changes how they "identify" on different forms? If the person "changes" how they "identify" on different forms, are they purposely putting false information on the form? I'm not trying to be mean or funny here.

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    There should be a check box for confused.
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    No, I didn’t buy that firearm. The lady bought it.
    I find supremely ironic that God in his wisdom and grace has given man freedom of choice bounded by 10 simple rules. Man in his finite wisdom has created millions of rules to limit freedom of choice and the personal responsibility of his fellow man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaCharlie View Post
    There should be a check box for confused.
    Me too! On another note, the places I go do them "digitally". Guess I'll see it sooner, as I assume their update will be quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaCharlie View Post
    There should be a check box for confused.
    Well, um, isn't that "non-binary"?

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    Re: The gender question: They should use the test the Marine DIs in AOCS made us do, "Four Count Pecker Checkers." The answer choices would be: Pass/Fail.
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    Further proof that the Government is being less and less useful.


    I don't believe that you are non-binary. You were born with one set of parts. Anything else is false teaching.
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    It's probably best I just shut up about here since my political correctness quotient is about to be exposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Further proof that the Government is being less and less useful.
    I don't believe that you are non-binary. You were born with one set of parts. Anything else is false teaching.
    I agree with you to the extent that I don't go along with the transgender thing at all, but there are scientific, biological exceptions and they occur more often that we think. They are called "intersex" which is a medical term, distinct from transgender, which is a social invention. As many one in 1,500 births involve children with indeterminate gender, including chromosomes that are neither XX or XY, such as XXY, and/or they have elements of both male and female sex organs. It is estimated that as many as one in 100 people are born with some more minor intersex symptoms that may be detectable at birth, but also may not show up until later in life.
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