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    Quote Originally Posted by Bille View Post
    I Went to a shooting-range yesterday, near the strip in Las
    Vegas ; never bin to an indoor range before. I put on my eye
    protection and Earmuffs ; then walk in to be directed to my
    stall .
    WAY TOO LOUD !
    And I Immediately turn around to go back outside , and pull
    off my Earmuffs, and place these orange earplugs in my ears
    and put the Earmuffs back on over them. I can't hear squat
    now ; so i thought !!

    All happy, after re-entering, I pull out my handgun and a few
    boxes of bullets, and prepare to go kill a target ; it's a silhouette
    of a human, with a Dirty Bird 12" , taped to the center.

    So I detail my breathing, sense the two-stage trigger , and
    wait for the end of my barrel to osculate into the target where
    I want the projectile to go. Just as i'm about to pull, and send the
    round off ; this AK-47 on full auto, goes off , and I jerk the gun
    kinda hard , and the round misses the Dirty-Bird , and wounds
    the silhouette near it's shoulder blade.
    Dang --- just missed !

    Lets try again .
    I line her up , and i'm , ((about)) to pull the trigger, when this 50cal
    or something other goes off ; it pulled the trigger for me, and I just
    castrated Mr. silhouette .
    Dang -- Missed again, and again, and again ... ; it didn't get any
    better for the next 50 rounds . (sad) and by better , i mean the
    headache, i just got, is no worst. By now, when this M-16 on full
    auto goes off in the stall near me ; it sounds like a cap-gun in
    comparison. Seriously --- i "Thought" i knew what loud was, when
    my brother would drop the hammer on his 300-magnum Weatherby.

    Should I just leave ? NO--- and the only way i'm gonna hit that
    target, is to learn to turn-off the external stimuli . But by now
    i'm like gun-shy , and my hands are sweating, body shaking, and
    if I HAD feet -----------------------------------they'd be shaking too.

    Spent a full two hours there ; never shot so bad , since I was
    12. I hand the Glock 26 to the range-master, and he places
    a full clip into a quarter size pattern, about 5-oclock and touching
    the red part of Dirty-Birds target. SO I Know this can be done.

    Remembering what VIP Member --Bad bob--said about marathon
    shooting , and fatigue , (I start to leave after 100 rounds) ; but I
    already know the learning curve ain't gonna be getting any better
    so I decide to stay for another 100, and try to get use to this environment.

    I go to check out after 2 full hours of shooting, and the girl says
    that will be $15 please ; then a dude whispers in her ear, and the
    price goes down to $10. I think it was because the dude I lent
    the gun to, had walked up to me on the range and said even at
    20 yards , you never missed the silhouette, (he was watching)
    the entire time. I turned and said : " but if it was a rabbit ; i'd be
    going hungry" , and he laughed his butt off !!!

    So that was an AWFUL experience ; and I feel quite humble now;
    but can't hardly wait to go back for More !
    It was like flying my hang-glider ; I can do everything Perfect
    and there is still a chance I could Die. For me -- that's what
    life is all about ; if I check-out, there will be no hind-sight and
    wondering what and where I went wrong, and why Me ? No
    regrets ; as long as I do everything as good --- as my genetics allow.

    Bille
    Good practice for self defense, we must learn to block out everything but 'our' target.
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    I'd say go more often, get used to other sounds being around you, you never know what kind of situation you'll be in and you don't want some strange sound to catch you off guard and you shoot the wrong person
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bille View Post
    ...

    Then this older gentleman came up and let me shoot his glock 17 with some strange
    sight called RED-Dot.
    DANG -- that thing, made me look better than i really am !!!
    That sight isn't something , someone would use for open carry ; is it ?

    Bille
    Lately all my practice has bin in that Loud environment ; it is cold and windy outside,
    and i'm a desert-dog, that likes it best when it's 100-F.

    I Google searched Red Dot for self defense ; got all the pros and cons for it.

    This article explained Why my performance was better as a beginner with
    that devise ; but may expect better results with iron sights after getting good
    with Rapid fire.

    Self-Defense Pistol Sights: Red Dot or Iron? | Prep-Blog.com

    BIlle

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    I have the same issue. When others are firing in sequence, and I know it's coming, I'm just fine. It's when they're firing shotguns, 308s, etc, and I'm not prepared that's when I jump or get startled.

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    the only range we go to is indoors, so i'm used to it. wouldn't want to be around one of you jumpy guys, might get shot.
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    Not sure I'd count the castration shot as a miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakShow66 View Post
    ... wouldn't want to be around one of you jumpy guys, might get shot.
    I wouldn't want to be another Dick Chaney ; so I'd have to agree with Ya on that one, and it's
    also the reason i started this Thread, (to get others ideas on the subject).

    BTW -- Thanks to the suggestions of many for the Topic ; i'm getting Less jumpy now !!

    Bille

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    My local indoor range is quite loud and they really push for their tacticool rifle rentals. They have two ranges, one basic and one advanced. If one side has some guys blasting away at 25yds with battle rifles, I'll opt for the other range. Otherwise, large bore revolvers being shot nearby don't bother me too much.

    I remember when I was young (<10) and my dad brought me out to the outdoor rifle range, there was a fella sighting in his, IIRC, Barrett 95. My heart would skip a beat every time that thing went off and it got to the point where I had to go sit in the truck.
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    Today i had some really good progress, dealing with noise and saying on target
    with my Glock-26 !!!

    Woke-up thinking the day was gonna be dedicated to making a new Fake-leg . By
    noon the weather wasn't gonna be cooperating with 40 % + relative humidity and
    rain a for-sure; So i went to that loud indoor range instead of working. Problem was
    i had wired-up with 10 cups of coffee ; the hands were shaking, so it took 170 rounds
    before i had a handle on the nerves.

    There was definite progress in performance ; shooting in an environment that makes me
    twitchy. Shot at 25 yards most the day; had 3 out of 10 rounds ,outside of the 12" circle
    for 70% hits . (sad)

    The last 25 rounds out of 200 , i started to get a handle on the coffee .. I guess this represents
    1800 rounds of practice, but of the last 25 rounds, i got 21 of them in a 12-inch circle at
    25 yards !! The other 4 were close.

    I think i might be ready to get rid of the training wheals , and go back to the Stock 3.42"
    barrel on the Glock 26 ; the one Storm-Lake barrel i'm using, gives me a major unfair advantage .

    Bille

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    I witnessed a family at an indoor range taking the kids shooting for the first time. The mother said to the young boy, "I know it's loud, and it's scary, but you'll be fine and get used to it". The first time I took my parents (who are a case of die hard antis becoming gun owners) to an indoor range the noise scared my mother to where she had to walk out. She would visibly shudder every time a gun went off (only) if she knew you were looking at her. It was kind of funny because in her protest she started to take off the ear muffs, BOOM, real wince, and they went back on. Eventually they got over it, bought some pistols, and practice regularly now.

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    Our first time at the indoor range was similarly horrible.

    o Super cold (winter)
    o Extremely dark - had to bring like three flashlights and standing lights
    o Super loud (had to have deeply jammed orange baffle earplugs and the ear muff and it was still chaotic)
    o Spent brass all over the floor and kept rolling around and slipping on them. One guy in the back with a push broom trying to keep up.
    o Very sloppy shooters, sweeping people, pointing their muzzles at the person in the next stall. We quickly learned to go to the far right stall.
    o No bullet resistant stall barriers. Yikes!

    The really bad stuff I repressed, but I remember saying 'no way am I going there again anytime soon'. We went about 5-6 times, and though very nice -outside- in the shop the shooting area was the pits.

    IOW, about par for the course LOL.

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    You are doing fine. It takes time to get used to the noise. Always use double hearing protection while practicing. You might want to look at finding a shooting coach. Do You do any "dry fire practice"?
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    At my indoor range, some of the loudest are the .38 snubbies. The RO explained that it was that little 2" barrel that caused a big concussion wave. The first time that happened to me, I thought my neighbor was shooting a 10mm or .45. Nope. .38.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Bob View Post
    You are doing fine. It takes time to get used to the noise. Always use double hearing protection while practicing. You might want to look at finding a shooting coach.
    Do You do any "dry fire practice"?
    Yes sir , i do dry-fire while watching a football game, once a week ; and i don't like
    the , (GHOST) 3.5Lb trigger i have, because once i find the second stage on it, the
    thing gets progressively harder to pull till it releases.

    Could you guide me towards a good discussion on triggers please ; preferably one
    that doesn't just talk about the pro/Con of after-Market triggers and there safety, but
    a Thread that talks about the mechanics of the different brands , so i can decide on
    what one to try next ?

    A shooting coach might be a good idea ; gonna need one that fires from fake legs though
    because it's WAY harder than shooting from a stable platform , (like Real legs) !
    It's not just the oscillation from the barrel caused by my arms when i fire standing-up ;
    i got to account for the constant movement in my knees as well. My knees are where
    i get my balance from , when standing on the two fake legs. I want to learn to shoot
    on the SS and carbon feet i normally walk with ; a size 13-EEE foot would make it way
    easier , but what do i tell a bad-guy if i'm confronted with my unsteady walking feet ?

    Bille

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    I practice at an outdoor range. Most of the time there's no one else there. If I want noise, I can eat a can of beans before I go!
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