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To Disclose or Not to Disclose: Here is the Answer

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    I informed for the first couple times I got pulled over shortly after receiving my permit. After that I made the decision to no longer do so unless asked directly or required to exit the vehicle, as another member indicated. In general, I prefer to keep as much to myself as possible (forum participation being the exception, haha).

    The second time I informed is what turned me off. The officer was annoyed that I handed my CCL with my ID and dismissed it immediately because he was in a rush to step onto his soapbox about my speeding. That was a while ago, its been a year or so since I've been pulled over (IIRC) so I haven't gained a lot of experience with such interactions. I've been asked a couple times if any drugs/weapons/fun-stuff are in the truck and at that point I disclose the information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Self-deleted! Tangential comment that on second thought added nothing to the thread.
    I thought it was a pretty good start to a stop myself.
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    I don't understand why some states require "duty to inform". Someone that intends to do harm isn't going to inform, only the law abiding will inform. Just like a lot of other gun laws that just hassle the law abiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDiablo View Post
    I know some would disagree but I notify regardless of state law. I find it gets me out of trouble.
    Ditto, have been stopped 3 times and have informed all 3 officers. only one officer asked me to hand him the pistol. I looked at him and asked if he would like me to clear pistol he said no. fumbled around with it until he figured out how to clear it. I told him with respect to him as a officer I didn't appreciate him pointing the gun at me when he was clearing it. I guess he didn't like my message to him he gave me a ticket. only one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabill View Post
    Ditto, have been stopped 3 times and have informed all 3 officers. only one officer asked me to hand him the pistol. I looked at him and asked if he would like me to clear pistol he said no. fumbled around with it until he figured out how to clear it. I told him with respect to him as a officer I didn't appreciate him pointing the gun at me when he was clearing it. I guess he didn't like my message to him he gave me a ticket. only one.
    This is one reason NOT to inform if you don't have to. You describe an officer who is skittish about legally carried guns and distrustful of someone carrying one. He asks you to surrender your legally carried gun. How is that not a 2A violation? He doesn't want you to clear it. At my range, that is a safety violation. You must clear a gun before you hand it to anyone. Then he fumbles around trying to clear a weapon he may be unfamiliar with, probably sending the chambered round somewhere on the shoulder where you are pulled over, and possibly muzzling you, your car, other cars going by, etc. while he is doing it. That's nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NECCdude View Post
    I don't understand why some states require "duty to inform". Someone that intends to do harm isn't going to inform, only the law abiding will inform. Just like a lot of other gun laws that just hassle the law abiding.
    In Ohio, I believe it was included in the original CHL bill as an amendment to appease opposition to concealed carry by police groups. There have been several attempts to legislatively remove that requirement, without success.
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    What I hear from my friend's that are Police and Sheriffs, it's a good idea to inform weather it's requiered or not. The Officer's appreciate the courtesy.
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    They tried to get it taken off in TX, too...but couldn't...so they did get the specific penalty for not notifying removed...

    ...leaving you to deal with an angry, insulted officer, should you decide not to notify upon demand...and they still have the right to remove the weapon during the encounter...and HE decides if you're a threat to yourself or anyone else, and if you've violated any provision of the chapter (which you have by failing to notify)...he can keep your weapon. The law doesn't say in this section how you go about getting it back. TX GC 411.207.

    Notify the officer if he demands ID...it's the only smart thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzQkr View Post
    Not sure if this list is up to date or not, The following states require you to disclose to law enforcement officers if you are armed whether you are asked or not: Alaska, Arkansas, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Nebraska, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas. If you are pulled over by a law enforcement officer in these states you must disclose that you are armed immediately and without being asked.

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    Maine duty to inform only applies to PERMITLESS carry - Those with CHL not required to inform.
    Not sure if that distinction also applies to any of the other states listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NECCdude View Post
    I don't understand why some states require "duty to inform". Someone that intends to do harm isn't going to inform, only the law abiding will inform. Just like a lot of other gun laws that just hassle the law abiding.
    Duty to inform really becomes stupid when we realize that criminals who are carrying illegally are protected from informing because doing so would be self incrimination.

    Soooooo... (and I know I'm preaching to the choir) just exactly who do gun control laws control?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    Duty to inform really becomes stupid when we realize that criminals who are carrying illegally are protected from informing because doing so would be self incrimination.

    Soooooo... (and I know I'm preaching to the choir) just exactly who do gun control laws control?
    Only those willing to abide by and adhere to them.
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    In IL it’s tied to my DL, so I will hand the ccw badge over with the DL and insurance info.
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    The first time I was pulled over after starting to carry, I informed the officer, figuring it to be courteous. He seemed slightly on edge afterwards - not jumpy, but maybe concerned. From that point I decided I’d keep my mouth shut unless I’m asked to exit my vehicle, to make sure he knows about it before he might see it (gust of wind or whatever).

    In a perfect world I think informing makes sense. Really, an officer should kind of assume a gun to be present regardless. But they’re human, and might deal with the unexpected in unfortunate ways.
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    I informed one time...The cop reached in and split the base of my skull with the butt of his revolver!!]

    OKAY MAYBE I AM KIDDING!
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