This is a discussion on 12.3% of Americans sometimes carry handguns within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; @ since9 : Since you know so much about stats, though, I am sure you are aware of all the current problems with sociological statistics, ...
@since9 : Since you know so much about stats, though, I am sure you are aware of all the current problems with sociological statistics, especially when it comes to "hot button" issues, like guns. You have:
- Researcher bias
- Measuring one thing, then trying to extrapolate the results for another thing
- Sample bias
- Confirmation bias
- Problems with question design
- Selective reporting
- Analysis bias
- "Cherry picking" data and studies
So while "statistics" as a science is sound, "statistical malpractice" to coin a term is rampant causing "damn lies" and worse. You can say that means they are no longer statistics, but they are gathered and interpreted by people with the right credentials and they are referred to as statistics. Most consumers of sociological stats have neither the expertise, or even the raw information to sort through it. IMHO, this is at its worst in sociological stats.
So if you do understand statistics and have a passion around it, this is not something you can get away with being Pollyanna about.
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Without possessing the original tallies, one normally cannot fact-check the statistics being presented.
And, you know, that inability hampers trained statisticians, too.
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Statistically I am in the group with the blank expressions.
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But that's technical writing, not media writing. Good journalists, even in mainstream media, will generally keep things more precise i.e. "9.2 million" instead of "about 9 million."
If the researchers have an obvious bias one way or the other, their methods can still be sound. Obvious bias does, however, make me examine their methods a bit more closely.
A sample size of 1,444 would result in the following margins of error for a population of 250,000 with the following confidence levels:
Thus, I suspect they were shooting for a 95% C.I. and a 3% margin of error, shot for the resulting 1,068 minimum sample size, and simply over-shot. That's common for polls where some answers might need to be tossed due to errors in polling or responses.
Nonetheless, I do think it is data point worth considering. I think the more people who carry, the better.
Would you enjoy spending significant amounts of conducting research and conveying carefully worded discourse when others trample it under their feet, even to the point of deleting entire threads? Of course not. Me either. Matthew 7:6
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Ima be unpopular. Stats dont lie. The people reporting or interpreting the data may to suit their agenda.
Stats don't lie. Data don't lie. Pictures don't lie. They are just information. They may or may not represent the whole story (usually not) and are often just the basis for folks to tell their own story, which may or may not be intentionally or unintentionally accurate.
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A breakdown by state would show 90% Alaska 1% New York, a guess.
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This one gives the licensing data, while state populations are readily available. Divide licenses by population to arrive at percentage of licensed carriers.
That is 10% of this personal sample group who are gun owners - lower than the 30% the survey showed. I could go around our condo circle and ask everyone if he/she owns a gun but NOT going to do that, since I suspect there are some who are virulently anti 2nd amendment and I'm not going to stir that pot.
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Talking to each other here is good, but taking action is better.
I only carry occasionally. Depends on my mood.