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Reply With QuoteYep...even the 45-70 he was referring to can be reloaded CHEAP...as compared to almost any commercial ammo.Originally Posted by G-man*
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Yep...even the 45-70 he was referring to can be reloaded CHEAP...as compared to almost any commercial ammo.
I would be VERY interested in a cost breakdown of your .45-70 reloads that are cheaper than "cheap 9mm ammo"! You must have some incredibly cheap sources for reloading components.
The cheapest .45-70 load I could come up with was about $.40/round. That's buying powder in bulk, not using a "premium" bullet, and not even including the cost of brass! I can buy cheap, brass-cased factory 9mm for $.15/round.
What am I missing?
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That should do quite nicely!
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I shoot .45-70 frequently and have been reloading them for the past 35 years or so. 350-grain RNFP cast of salvaged wheel weights, large rifle primer, 28 grains IMR 4198. I figure my cost to reload at about $0.15 per round, $7.50 per box of 50 rounds. That compares pretty favorably with factory 9mm pistol ammo.
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Out of all the rifles I have hunted with over the years, the 44 magnum is the most impressive on deer within 100 yards.That should do quite nicely!
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They come off with a few turns of the screw:)Scope on a lever gun?
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I've never had to shoot anything twice with my .30-06 with 165-grain Sierra SPBTs. Effective, they are. IMO, a .30 165-grain bullet at decent velocity and reasonable range is good for most anything.
On a sidenote, I loaded some Nosler 150-grain BTs for the -06 and at first thought I'd found magic. Smaller than a quarter-sized group at 200 yards, but stretching out to 300 found I could barely keep them on the paper. Became unstable for some reason. That's when I switched to 165-grainers. Big difference.
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Using my cast bullets and reloading my brass...coming in under the cost of bulk 9mm ammo is no problem. I can produce these reloads for about 16 cents per round or $8.00 per 50. In my area or online orders with shipping, bulk 9mm costs me $10 per 50 rounds...so, you have access to cheaper 9mm than I do. But, my point still stands...reloading 45-70 makes it very affordable to shoot. And, actually, my statement was about commercial 45-70 and not 9mm specifically...but it does compare very favorably to 9mm...since you mention it.
“The everyday man who holsters a handgun for come-what-may eventualities cannot improve on a .44 Special revolver.” Skeeter Skelton
Glad that works for you, but for most of us, it won't.
Most of us don't have the skills, equipment, time, or opportunity to cast free bullets. VERY few are able to cast "premium bullets", and the cheapest (NOT premium) bullets I'm seeing for .45-70 are a quarter a pop; almost twice the cost of a cheap factory 9mm round. You're also basing your cost on a very light load - 28 gr. vs. 35-45 gr. for a "standard" load. Forty grains of IMR 4198 will set you back about $.14/round for the powder alone.
So, a realistic cost for someone who doesn't cast 'free' bullets, and loads to a standard pressure, is $.25 for the bullet, $.14 for powder, and $.03 for a primer. That's $.42 a round and still does not account for the cost of brass or investment in dies. Heck, most of us would never reload 1000 rounds of .45-70 in our lives, so a $50 set of dies adds another nickel per round to the cost!
In your circumstances, maybe you can equate the cost of .45-70 reloads to new 9mm ammo. In my circumstances, I can't.
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G-man, a .44 lever gun is on my wish list. I keep scanning the racks in the local shops. Nice choice.
My current lever gun is Winchester in 45 Colt, which, loaded with warm ammo, would seem to be a decent second choice to the .44.
45-70 is an awesome cartridge, but is too much gun for my neighborhood.
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Its not a good second choice.....it’s an excellent alternative!G-man, a .44 lever gun is on my wish list. I keep scanning the racks in the local shops. Nice choice.
But my current lever gun is Winchester in 45 Colt, which, loaded with warm ammo, would seem to be a decent second choice to the .44.
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Many folks say 45 Colt does everything 44 Magnums does, but with less fanfare. I'd love to add a 45 Colt lever to the collection as well. I have a custom 3" M28 that was rodded out to 45 Colt that would pair well with one.G-man, a .44 lever gun is on my wish list. I keep scanning the racks in the local shops. Nice choice.
My current lever gun is Winchester in 45 Colt, which, loaded with warm ammo, would seem to be a decent second choice to the .44.
45-70 is an awesome cartridge, but is too much gun for my neighborhood.
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