Shoot straight? Not a chance! Binocular Vision

Shoot straight? Not a chance! Binocular Vision

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    Shoot straight? Not a chance! Binocular Vision

    Iíve been shooting for at least 40 years but have most of the time missed my targets about the same, 3-4 inches off. Itís consistent, has been the whole time.

    Hereís how itís always gone:

    Friend:Sister, line your sight up with the target

    me: which one

    Friend: line your sight up, how hard can it be?

    me: which one, I have two targets when I look at my sight, when looking at the target I have two sites?


    I never understood nor did my friends. Yesterday I got a answer, itís called Binocular vision. Itís double vision in both eyes. Never heard of it before but now itís nice to know Iím not just a bad shot for 40 years caus I do enjoy shooting.

    This is the second doctor that said Lyme disease was to blame but Iíve read where folks with Ehlers-Danlos can have it too so no telling, just donít get bit by ticks?!

    This is and has been a problem so Iíll continue to practice point shooting and keep working on that, unless someone has heard of this and has another solution?
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    Good luck and I hope the doctors can help you


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    I may have that...I miss a lot of targets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangers13 View Post
    Good luck and I hope the doctors can help you
    Thank you. I do have shooting glasses that do bring things closer together, itís still frustrating.



    @Shootnlead; youíd know it if you had it. It wasnít missing them that got my attention as much as seeing two of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister View Post
    Thank you. I do have shooting glasses that do bring things closer together, itís still frustrating.



    @Shootnlead; youíd know it if you had it. It wasnít missing them that got my attention as much as seeing two of them.
    Actually, I was joking...I can't shoot!
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    Seen this in many students, either seeing two guns or two targets.

    2 solutions that have worked in the courses

    1. Squint, the double goes away
    2. Shoot with just the dominant/master eye open

    Binocular vision dysfunction (BVD) is a visual condition where the line of sight from one eye tends to be slightly out of alignment with the line of sight from the other eye (usually vertical) and this puts heavy strain on the eye muscles as they are constantly trying to correct the alignment to achieve single focus.
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    I see two guns when I shoot with both eyes open, but one is more shadowy. It has not been a problem for me.
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    I have that. Double vision in either eye, one image above the other, slightly off center. Closing one or the other doesn't help. Worse at night with double tail lights. I mention it to the eye docs and get no explanation.
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    All people with vision in two eyes have binocular vision. A person who can only see with one eye has monocular vision. So your affliction is more complex than having binocular vision. Each eye sees an object from a different point of view since our eyes are separated by distance. So we are actually seeing two different images that the sight center in the brain merges into one that we can recognize. That is how we have depth perception. Monocular people do not have it.

    There are several disorders associated with binocular vision. I think you might be experiencing stereopsis which is, as I recall the root cause of double vision. It has been a long tome since iI read about such things so I might be wrong. During my pro photographer career I once injures an eye and ended up with monocular vision for a while. I did a lot of reading about binocular and monocular vision. Yes, I read it with one eye.

    I found an image of how a person with stereopsis sees a target. The top image is normal vision, and the bottom is stereopsis vision. I have a commitment tonight so I cannot look into it further until late tonight or tomorrow. I will do that and post information that I can find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I have that. Double vision in either eye, one image above the other, slightly off center. Closing one or the other doesn't help. Worse at night with double tail lights. I mention it to the eye docs and get no explanation.
    I beleave your problems revolves around
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    You have had enough to drink when you see double objects. You have had way more than enough when you see three objects rotating around each other.
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    Donít sell yourself short, you do pretty good. We need to work on your grip to center things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWOUSCG View Post
    Donít sell yourself short, you do pretty good. We need to work on your grip to center things up.

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    Grip needls work? All I can say is I would not want to be her target. Ouch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flh View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I have that. Double vision in either eye, one image above the other, slightly off center. Closing one or the other doesn't help. Worse at night with double tail lights. I mention it to the eye docs and get no explanation.
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    ...I think you might be experiencing stereopsis...
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