This is a discussion on 44 Magnum. Will it kill a big bear within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by muzzleblast If he had a valid brown/grizzly bear tag... and since he wasn't hunting over a "baited" gut pile... then, yes. Otherwise, ...
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I’ve been shooting the .44 Magnum for many, many years. I also hunt with it and have taken several deer and even a very small bear with the .44 Magnum. I would be crapping nickels if I saw that thing coming towards me! If I were to ever be hunting where grizzlies or brown bears might be encountered, I’d probably be packing something like the .454! LOL
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A Game and Wildlife officer (IIRC) once said that his rule was "4-3-1". Meaning 40+ caliber, 300 grain bullet, 1000 fps. He seemed to know what he was talking about and I have More or less followed that advice in Grizzly country.
And +1 for the pepper spray. With or without a firearm.
I've heard lots of stories. ol' Elmer Kieth relates one of a cowboy dropping two grizzlies with a 45 Colt SAA.
You could start with 44 Specials and work your way up to bear loads. I practice with mid-range 240gn cast bullets. Helps with that flinch, which seems easy to develop with full mag loads. And recoil control has always been tough for me.
But I still love 44 Magnum.
I carry a .44 magnum in black bear country and a .454 Casull in brown bear country.
A guy I met at the LGS who told me he was in the woods during hunting season. He heard a shot and a couple of minutes later was charged by a black bear. He emptied his .44 magnum at it and it died at his feet. Soon, another guy showed up and said he had shot it with his .300 Winchester magnum. He showed me a picture of it. It was a 150 pound black bear.
The LGS owner and his son were deer hunting in Central Oregon. His son walked across a small clearing to a downed large pine tree. A 300 pound black bear stood up immediately across the tree from him and he shot it point blank with his .30-06. The bear started screaming and trying to circle behind him. It took two more shots at close range to stop it.
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One of my old 44 mag loads was 300 grain in 44 mag. It was around 1,160 to 1,175 FPS. It's a little hard on a old man's hand.
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I've never hunted bear; Black or other. But, I've been around allot of Black Bear and even had one stand up on its hind legs and scream at me. With my Winchester 270 in hand, I felt no threat, and just stood there and calmly told the bear to move along. The bear complied and he lived to enjoy another day.
As to the 44 mag.. My Ruger in 44 mag. is my sidearm, of choose, when exploring the woods in non-hunting season, or when fallowing up a friends wounded deer or wild hog, or other critter.
As such I've shot many deer and wild boar with the 44 mag. Loaded with Speer Gold Dot 240 gr HP; Muzzle velocity of 1400 FPS and energy of 1044 ft. lbs. I’ve seen 300 lb. wild boar angry and full or rage, charging me, hit the dirt sliding with one shot to the head.
Which brings me to my point.. Shot placement and penetration. No different from hunting, only in a self-defensive, scenario with a “large” angry full of rage critter charging you, accuracy is something that only comes from practice. So whatever you buy to carry in the woods, get some serious practice in with it.
In Ruidoso NM we go Jeeping and hiking a lot. I asked the owner of the hiking store about bears and he said:
" I sell a bear spray that smells like peppermint. I also recommend to tie little bells on your hiking boots to warn the bears you are in the area. I asked how to tell if a bear was in the area, he said look for bear poop. You can tell its bear poop cause it smells like candy canes and has little bells in it." Couldn't resist telling that one.
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