This is a discussion on Bug out bag BOB! Need ideas! within the Home (And Away From Home) Defense Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Spark456 I have been thing about getting SUB-2000 - Kel-Tec in 9mm looks easy to pack. The mag are smaller then AR ...
I'm buying an atv this year. It's my get out of dodge plan. Will load bare 250#s of gear, 4x4 on demand, dot acceptable tires [ 12 ply is what I'll be swapping them to which will hold up better on rough terrain with less chance of blowing one out of the rocks ] so road travel to get to the Superstitions [ just 5 miles to the base of the mountain ]. From there, it's 4x4 into areas we search on SAR that have water year round.
My 3 day always ready to go SAR pack will be supplemented with all manner of necessities, including 15-20 gallons of water [ 105-140 #'s worth ]. The pack already weighs 60#'s with med gear included [ hold WFR cert so carry med stuff ]. That takes me to 200#' of the 250 allotted that can be carried safely on the 4x4.
First water area of the Supes, and if it gets too crowded in that area, one can get further back into the wilderness another mile or so, and still be close enough to return for water when necessary.
In my experience, working disaster/flood/quake..the first thing you miss is light...extra batterys...then extra contruction grade (thick) plastic garbage bags, as large as possible, a simple reliable CHARGER for your phone/light , a couple of "spare" knifes, para cord, at least 4 ways to start a fire....before I would "pack" a long gun, Id pack a radiation detector, (something made in the 21st century) and water and at least two (2) ways to make it drinkable...
There are many major problems when a large area is being evacuated and many things to be considered. I have been forced to flee from hurricanes on two occasions. Fuel was not available. Destinations were uncertain. Traffic was horrible. Some destinations were not gun friendly. Some destinations, even 500 miles away did not have accommodations. We have a large RV and it is self contained but fuel and parking areas are not plentiful either.
Even now, I do not go to bed without 3/4 of a tank of fuel. The RV has a lot of needed items ready to go.
No matter what, all my guns will go with us.
A 9mm might expand but a .45acp never shrinks.
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