Ohio homeowner shoots dead two 17-year-old boys

Ohio homeowner shoots dead two 17-year-old boys

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    Ohio homeowner shoots dead two 17-year-old boys

    Well, we might be hearing about this one soon......


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...de-garage.html

    Devon Henderson and Javier Harrison, both 17, were shot dead on Wednesday
    The unidentified homeowner told 911 he shot them in his garage at 9.30pm
    He told cops the boys were trying to 'rob' and 'do something' to his house
    Javier's father says he should not have shot and that the boys had been to the garage before
    He claims they knew the owner - who has not been identified and is being questioned by police
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    Nice house.

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    Odd that a UK news outlet would find a shooting in Ohio newsworthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Odd that a UK news outlet would find a shooting in Ohio newsworthy.
    Believe it or not, they report everything. I see more stories from that source than anything stateside. And its usually not laced with the authors opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty View Post
    Believe it or not, they report everything. I see more stories from that source than anything stateside. And its usually not laced with the authors opinion.
    With over forty murders per day in the US, I'm doubtful that they report them all. Which ones they do report actually is the author's opinion.
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    Of course they don't. But in general they will post stories you won't see in many places. I remember they put out a lot of stories about Obama that never made the press anywhere else.

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    In a perfect world, the homeowner (maybe) should have called 911 first - but we don't know if the kids had a history of theft from the garage, or if they were just 'being kids". They got what they deserved - maybe earlier than normal, but they won't be thieving anymore. Tough

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    @Mike1956 : You will know this better than me, but my read of the new Ohio SD law, that puts the burden on the prosecution to prove it was not SD might work in this guy's favor. It might get him off. The way I read it, if they entered the guys' dwelling, which I think would include the garage, it is presumed that he has the right to shoot unless the prosecution can prove he was under no threat, which I think would be hard for the prosecution to do.
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    Umm, SD law or not, you cannot shoot someone just because they are in your garage. The homeowner initiated the contact, not the trespassers, and there is no evidence they meant him harm. Unless they tried harming him and he fired in SD as determined by a reasonable person, he is toast. And even if he beats a Murder charge, he will still lose a Wrongful Death civil suit.
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    If it goes to court the things he said may be used against him to attempt to convince the jury or judge he really didn't feel at risk of death or grave bodily injury, but rather that he shot out of malice.

    Of course he might also have told the 911 dispatcher or investigators what the young men were doing that necessitated a lethal response, and it just wasn't reported in the news.
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    AND, as there is a survivor, all that person needs to say in court is that they were there for some innocent reason (unlawful or not) and not to harm the shooter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinRohrer View Post
    AND, as there is a survivor, all that person needs to say in court is that they were there for some innocent reason (unlawful or not) and not to harm the shooter.
    There was someone there other than the homeowner and the two deceased young men?
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    Quote Originally Posted by graydude View Post
    There was someone there other than the homeowner and the two deceased young men?
    The Dayton article says there was a 3rd trespasser who left but came back once the Police got there. This does not bode well for the homeowner.
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    Kind of an unusual story. Why were the kids there in his garage at that hour? Drugs? It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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