Places you might want to avoid

Places you might want to avoid

This is a discussion on Places you might want to avoid within the Home (And Away From Home) Defense Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Just ran across this article and map this morning. I have no idea how accurate the information is here, but The Center for Immigration Studies ...

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    Places you might want to avoid

    Just ran across this article and map this morning. I have no idea how accurate the information is here, but The Center for Immigration Studies generally has a good reputation, so I suspect the map is reasonably correct.

    Map: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States

    Updated April 16, 2019
    The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.


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    See the interactive map at the link below:
    https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities...rJZNPLxFnuVOjg
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    If you look at the cluster in the Pacific Northwest, that is where we live. Oregon has been a sanctuary state by law since 1987.
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    LimaCharlie, we loved Oregon when we were looking at places to retire, but decided against it when we did more research and could see the political direction the state was headed. Too many liberal Californians moving there.
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    Ironically, when I lived in (Central Valley) CA, I spent most of my week driving to Nebraska and back.
    Now I live in AZ and spent most of my week driving to Los Angeles and back.
    That changes this week. My new route is to Phoenix, El Paso, Kansas and back home to NW AZ.
    No more SoCal. Even though I'll be going through some spots on that map, no more SoCal.

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    Oregon has been Californicated. I would love to move to another state and live out in the country, but at seventy-three and with my wife's large family in this area, it is not likely. My wife's ancestors came out in covered wagons on the Oregon Trail in 1847 and homesteaded in the Willamette Valley.
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    Another thing you should look up is places where there are attempts to enforce Sharia Law. It is hard to separate fact from fiction with this. Some right wingers have claimed this is prevalent, others say the claims are exaggerated. But there are clearly some places in the US where non-Muslims are not welcome and violations of Sharia Law may attract "street justice" that local LE will not investigate. Dearborn, MI is documented as being one of those places. In the Catskills, there is an all Muslim town called "Islamberg." In SC, there is a similar area called, "Holy Islamville."

    In Brooklyn, there is a uniformed, Islamic neighborhood watch organization. The guy below is part of it. He is standing in front of the NYPD 72nd Precinct. Notice his car. It looks like an NYPD car, but look closer. Sure, they can claim they are only trying to protect against/escape harassment against Muslims and maybe they are. But think of the what the reaction would be if you started an expressly Christian or Jewish town or uniformed watch group!

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    I'm truly excited by the prospect of such an idjit pulling up in front of my house. The "welcome" would be similar:

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    Texas still looks clean.
    Dallas and San Antonio and Austin announced that they wanted to turn sanctuary
    Governor Abbott nipped that in the bud told them there would be hell to pay.
    Wonder how long that will stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    Texas still looks clean.
    Dallas and San Antonio and Austin announced that they wanted to turn sanctuary
    Governor Abbott nipped that in the bud told them there would be hell to pay.
    Wonder how long that will stick.
    I hear a lot of Kalifornians are moving to Texas for financial reasons. That's gonna catch up with you politically sooner or later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    I'm truly excited by the prospect of such an idjit pulling up in front of my house. The "welcome" would be similar:

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    I hear a lot of Kalifornians are moving to Texas for financial reasons. That's gonna catch up with you politically sooner or later.
    We're not really very gentle with liberals hereabouts. To wit:

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    It's interesting how people slam Sheriffs unwilling to enforce unconstitutional gun laws while saying it's OK for cities to ignore immigration law. So much hypocrisy in our world!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NECCdude View Post
    It's interesting how people slam Sheriffs unwilling to enforce unconstitutional gun laws while saying it's OK for cities to ignore immigration law. So much hypocrisy in our world!
    Multiple SCOTUS decisions have established that with only very limited exceptions, the federal government cannot force states or localities to enforce federal laws.

    It's a different situation with states defying federal drug laws by making marijuana legal. FWIW, I'm all for decriminalizing marijuana, putting it on the same category as alcohol and nicotine, but that requires federal legislation. So those states are blatantly violating the Constitution by going farther than just not enforcing federal law, they are superseding it. I'm disappointed the federal government is not clamping down on that.
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    Nashville may be heading towards sanctuary status contrary to state law prohibiting it. It seems so many cities are in direct violation of federal law in aiding and abetting. I would love to see mayors and city councils arrested by federal agents when they refuse to honor retainers and warrants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    I hear a lot of Kalifornians are moving to Texas for financial reasons. That's gonna catch up with you politically sooner or later.
    It's gotten to us with the northern coast retirees moving here.
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