Updated LDS guidelines on active shooters in church, & other incidents

Updated LDS guidelines on active shooters in church, & other incidents

This is a discussion on Updated LDS guidelines on active shooters in church, & other incidents within the Home (And Away From Home) Defense Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I know that several of my LDS friends do not subscribe to these policies. Still, I am amazed at the church's policy of "run, hide, ...

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    Updated LDS guidelines on active shooters in church, & other incidents

    I know that several of my LDS friends do not subscribe to these policies. Still, I am amazed at the church's policy of "run, hide, fight," especially here in Utah.

    Active shooters at church, other incidents covered in updated LDS church security guidelines

    ST. GEORGE – Due to “changing conditions around the world,” The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints released updated security guidelines Thursday on what to do during an active shooter situation and otherwise dangerous and suspicious incidents at church.

    ...In relation to firearms in church buildings, LDS officials discouraged people from carrying firearms into church unless they were law enforcement officers as it was considered inappropriate otherwise. In August the church updated its policy to expressly forbid firearms from being brought into a building with the aforementioned exception.

    ....The church ask leaders and members to “run, hide or fight” in an active shooter situation. This practice has been employed by secular institutions and is further detailed on Ready.gov.


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    I'm LDS, and I do not subscribe. I fear it's my church getting political.

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    Being told not to carry in synagogue ended my attendance at synagogue. That policy was re-visited and changed when my continued absence was noticed by the congregation.

    I would hope for a similar resolution for the Mormons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad88minutejohn View Post
    I'm LDS, and I do not subscribe. I fear it's my church getting political.

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    I belong to the Union of Reform Judaism, which is officially anti-gun, and uber political. I don't subscribe to their policies, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Being told not to carry in synagogue ended my attendance at synagogue. That policy was re-visited and changed when my continued absence was noticed by the congregation.

    I would hope for a similar resolution for the Mormons.
    I'm REALLY glad that it worked for you at your local level.
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    I have family that are Seventh-Day Adventist, very strict and use to be extremely anti gun. One relative is a pastor at one of the larger churches and their whole family goes. I love these ppl and grew up one (SDA), however my beliefs as a young adult and now have changed to the Baptist believe.

    Odd how back in the 1960’s the SDA were so anti-gun my older relatives refused to use a gun in the war. Now they have armed guards at the church (member that stand guard with guns) and many carry. Not picking on them, great ppl it’s just that geez, you can’t change Gods word to work out for your desires - this to me is why folks don’t trust religion, too many ppl taking the Word into their own hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott View Post
    I'm REALLY glad that it worked for you at your local level.
    Me, too, as are many in our congregation. When the board voted on the motion, there were a couple abstentions, but only one member was opposed. She was mad (and vocal) because she wrongly believed that their actions meant that her son could not legally carry on the premises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Being told not to carry in synagogue ended my attendance at synagogue. That policy was re-visited and changed when my continued absence was noticed by the congregation.

    I would hope for a similar resolution for the Mormons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
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    And empty seats.
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    Georgia Law says that you have to be given explicit (written) permission to carry at Church unless you are a LEO (or other anointed personage under GA Law). So, in GA if a Church says no it carries the weight of law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PPS1980 View Post
    Georgia Law says that you have to be given explicit (written) permission to carry at Church unless you are a LEO (or other anointed personage under GA Law). So, in GA if a Church says no it carries the weight of law.
    Same thing in Ohio.
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    Re: LDS's new policy; here is an, admittedly, third-hand account. Take from it what you will.

    I have a relative who has been a church member for some time. She tells me that the word she gets through the grapevine from a couple of the higher placed leaders is that some of the new public policy is for public consumption. It seems the church is viewed by our government as a potential trouble source because their belief in self-sufficiency undermines the goal of dependency on government. Hence the effort to appear harmless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoganbeg View Post
    Re: LDS's new policy; here is an, admittedly, third-hand account. Take from it what you will.

    I have a relative who has been a church member for some time. She tells me that the word she gets through the grapevine from a couple of the higher placed leaders is that some of the new public policy is for public consumption. It seems the church is viewed by our government as a potential trouble source because their belief in self-sufficiency undermines the goal of dependency on government. Hence the effort to appear harmless.
    Ah, the old "Lure them in with the old Gun-free-zone" trick, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoganbeg View Post
    Re: LDS's new policy; here is an, admittedly, third-hand account. Take from it what you will.

    I have a relative who has been a church member for some time. She tells me that the word she gets through the grapevine from a couple of the higher placed leaders is that some of the new public policy is for public consumption. It seems the church is viewed by our government as a potential trouble source because their belief in self-sufficiency undermines the goal of dependency on government. Hence the effort to appear harmless.
    That strategy would depend on the 6.6 million Mormons in the US staying on script.
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