This guy got way too close...

This guy got way too close...

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    This guy got way too close...

    Another instance where the police let a suspect get way too close for comfort. Not only is this dangerous for them, but I also think it sets a very bad precedent every time they allow a perpetrator to get as close as they do today. You can't tell from their body cams how close this guy got, but the aerial footage shows it very well.

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    Beanbag rounds? How about rifle shot!!!

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    At 6 seconds in the vid, that officer on the rights hand hold is completely messed up. He ends up going to a proper hold, but that's just messed up how he was two handing that duty pistol.

    I believe they waited as long as they did so there would be NO questions later as to why they shot him.
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    There'll ALWAYS be questions/complaints...fear of questions shouldn't cause them to let him get that close. I didn't see the effect of any beanbag rounds...I would never have tried them on an armed suspect who was charging after having shot someone. I sure wouldn't fit in these days.

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    So for 10 minutes the police did nothing but talk to this guy, who was waving a gun around, while his victim(s) suffered? So criminal's life is more important than the criminal's victims?
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    Yikes! That went too far past a couple of ignored commands to "drop the weapon".
    So who is this Will that everybody fires at, what did he do, and how come he's not dead yet??

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    That is the first time I have ever seen officers determine to shoot an actor ARMED WITH A FIREARM when he GOT TOO CLOSE!

    Something tells me that isn't how they were trained.
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    We recently discussed an incident where cops were SWATTED to a house, but it was the wrong house, and they shot and killed the unarmed homeowner because he put a hand near his waist. And there was another case we discussed where a woman called 911 to report shots in the neighborhood. As she approached the responding patrol car, unarmed, there was a loud noise from somewhere and the cop shot her dead. We also discussed the story of cops responding to an actual home DGU, where a cop shot and killed the defender, who was still in his house and apparently couldn't hear the command to drop the gun. But the defender was not pointing the gun at the police.

    So the dirtbag in this story is given every chance and honest citizens get gunned down. I wish there was some balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzQkr View Post
    At 6 seconds in the vid, that officer on the rights hand hold is completely messed up. He ends up going to a proper hold, but that's just messed up how he was two handing that duty pistol.

    I believe they waited as long as they did so there would be NO questions later as to why they shot him.
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    That's the "new order" for this country. You have to make darn sure that lethal force was necessary. Good thing that LEO's don't have a duty to retreat or this guy would've still been on the streets.
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    Too much talking, very bad ides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    We recently discussed an incident where cops were SWATTED to a house, but it was the wrong house, and they shot and killed the unarmed homeowner because he put a hand near his waist. And there was another case we discussed where a woman called 911 to report shots in the neighborhood. As she approached the responding patrol car, unarmed, there was a loud noise from somewhere and the cop shot her dead. We also discussed the story of cops responding to an actual home DGU, where a cop shot and killed the defender, who was still in his house and apparently couldn't hear the command to drop the gun. But the defender was not pointing the gun at the police.

    So the dirtbag in this story is given every chance and honest citizens get gunned down. I wish there was some balance.
    There'll be no balance when it's different officers responding in different situations. For every leo, there's a slightly different solution/response. They are robotos programmed to response the exact same way in every possible scenario that might play out on the streets.

    To expect there to be balance when humans are involved is being unrealistic, at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CG11 View Post
    Yikes! That went too far past a couple of ignored commands to "drop the weapon".
    Yeah, what happened to "Ask them, Tell them, Make them"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Yeah, what happened to "Ask them, Tell them, Make them"?
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    Seeing as there was a victim on the ground lethal force should have been used much sooner.

    I also don't know why the officers let an armed and dangerous person get so close either. They need to go home at night. I gladly would choose the lives of most officers over the lives of the criminals. Simply because most officers are good people, and the criminals are criminals because they are not good people.

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