Throwing handgun out car window is only "littering" in Houston

Throwing handgun out car window is only "littering" in Houston

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    Throwing handgun out car window is only "littering" in Houston

    Maybe it's only me, but things seem a bit bizarre in Houston.

    Suspect Tosses Gun Out Car Window, Cited For Littering As DA Refuses Gun Charges

    Houston, TX – Houston police charged an 18-year-old woman who threw a pistol out of a car window with “littering with gun” because the Harris County prosecutors refused to authorize weapons charges.

    The incident occurred on Sunday when two Houston police officers on patrol initiated a traffic stop in the 7200-block of Tobruk Lane, according to an internal Houston Police Officers’ Union memo obtained by Blue Lives Matter.

    As they were attempting to stop the vehicle, both officers witnessed the passenger throwing a pistol out of the car’s window.

    Once they had the vehicle stopped, the officers detained the male 17-year-old driver and his 18-year-old female passenger and located the weapon where it had been tossed, according to the confidential memo.

    The driver told the officers that he had given the gun to his passenger and told her to throw it out the window.

    All of the admissions were captured on the officers’ bodycams so it should have been an easy slam dunk to charge both the driver and his passenger, but that isn’t how it works in Harris County.

    Law enforcement officers in Harris County are required to contact the district attorney’s office for permission to charge before they actually arrest a suspect, Houston Police Officers’ Union Vice President Doug Griffith explained to Blue Lives Matter.


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    This craziness started when many conservatives incumbents lost in the midterm elections here in Harris County.

    DA Ogg will file criminal charges against companies that experience fires and other losses under the clean air act though.
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    I attended a panel discussion with the Mark and Gabby show at the VA state capital with a group from the VCDL. It was all anti-gun. The VCDL was not on the panel, didn't get to speak or ask questions. So it was a one-sided show.

    But despite the anti-gunners best efforts to make it all propaganda, some good points slipped out anyway. One was the prosecutor on the panel admitted gun laws on the books now are rarely enforced against dangerous criminals. Most prosecutors don't consider them worth prosecuting and use gun charges as plea bargaining chips. So in another jurisdiction, the officers might have been able to arrest, but the suspects might well get to plead out to a misdemeanor charge.

    That prosecutor on the panel said it's just a reality of the legal system nowadays. Prosecutors he talks to from all over the country say the same thing. It is due to the number of cases they have to handle and what their priorities are. Also, he doesn't see it changing in the foreseeable future.

    The implication of course is that new gun laws won't get prosecuted against actual criminals either. They are just a means to keep the law abiding citizens in line.
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    What’s different now is that current Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg has quickly earned herself a reputation as a friend to the Houston criminals by refusing to charge anything but the most violent of crimes.
    That's a DA who does not belong in office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    I attended a panel discussion with the Mark and Gabby show at the VA state capital with a group from the VCDL. It was all anti-gun. The VCDL was not on the panel, didn't get to speak or ask questions. So it was a one-sided show.

    But despite the anti-gunners best efforts to make it all propaganda, some good points slipped out anyway. One was the prosecutor on the panel admitted gun laws on the books now are rarely enforced against dangerous criminals. Most prosecutors don't consider them worth prosecuting and use gun charges as plea bargaining chips. So in another jurisdiction, the officers might have been able to arrest, but the suspects might well get to plead out to a misdemeanor charge.

    That prosecutor on the panel said it's just a reality of the legal system nowadays. Prosecutors he talks to from all over the country say the same thing. It is due to the number of cases they have to handle and what their priorities are. Also, he doesn't see it changing in the foreseeable future.

    The implication of course is that new gun laws won't get prosecuted against actual criminals either. They are just a means to keep the law abiding citizens disarmed.
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    Maybe it was a Jimenez or a Jennings.

    Houston is so liberal and got so much worse after the Katrina influx.
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    The mayor of Portland, Oregon and the city council are considering not sending police on 9-1-1 calls since most calls are for someone having a mental crisis. Sending two unarmed people with mental health training is the option they are considering.
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    On SO MANY LEVEL'S, my traveling down to the "war zone" is sketchy, hence forth, some of my other posts on what I carry/level of preparation I take! That's all I've got to say about Houston.
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    They threw metal and maybe some plastic out the window. Why would it be anything other than littering?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaCharlie View Post
    The mayor of Portland, Oregon and the city council are considering not sending police on 9-1-1 calls since most calls are for someone having a mental crisis. Sending two unarmed people with mental health training is the option they are considering.
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    Keep Texas beautiful. Deposit all handgun littering to me for proper disposal. One mans trash is another mans treasure.
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    The headline left me struggling with what the exact problem is here. Further reading of the article gives us this:

    He also said the Harris County District Attorney’s Office has stopped prosecuting charges of resisting arrest and assaults on police officers that are committed while the suspect is resisting.

    The district attorney was outed for retaliating against police officers who criticized her new charging policies in February of 2018.

    That’s when she cut off police access to a database that is essential to criminal investigations, the police union said.
    So the DA is a cop hater. That makes it pretty tough to do each of those jobs.
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    Well, the status has changed on this case, AFTER, the head of the Houston Police Officers Union raised a stink. 17 y.o. teen WILL BE charged with Class A misdemeanor, minor in possession of a firearm. The D.A. office excuse is, with a tight budget, the office within the jail that is maned by adviser's to recommend charges is maned by college students, as their budget can't afford "REAL ATTORNEY'S"!
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