U.S. GO in Afghanistan still likes his 1911

U.S. GO in Afghanistan still likes his 1911

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    U.S. GO in Afghanistan still likes his 1911

    https://www.militarytimes.com/off-du...sonal-sidearm/

    General Scott Miller, former SOF operator, prefers his 1911 to the new SIG 9mm. But then, he's probably the only GO to be confident with the M4.
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    Good choice for a CQBP, but you have to be able to reliably Nd accurately operate it. Most service members to whom it was issued could do that when I was carrying one. But ammo capacity and rate of proficiency pushed the military to 9mm. Marine Force Recon still uses a modified M1911 and I believe MARSOC Marines do also. But they train relentlessly with the gun.
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    Never been in combat, but i trust my 1911 enough that it is my everyday carry.
    I shoot it better than any other pistol I own.
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    Good choice!
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    It does require more training to use proficiently. Good to see a GO actually firing weapons......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nmuskier View Post
    https://www.militarytimes.com/off-du...sonal-sidearm/

    General Scott Miller, former SOF operator, prefers his 1911 to the new SIG 9mm. But then, he's probably the only GO to be confident with the M4.
    He apparently did not care for the Beretta either as he was issued the 1911 in 1992 and it became his official general officer sidearm in 2009. Seems like he always carried a 1911 during his career since that is what Delta used during the 80s/90s when he was there(according to article). I imagine the 1911 he was issued was not one of the ones that sounds like a can of spray paint when you walk. Wonder what it was?

    I wish we the knew the model he carries now too. The article just stated prominent beaver tail and black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PPS1980 View Post
    It does require more training to use proficiently. Good to see a GO actually firing weapons......
    And apparently fire them he did. Last paragraph of article:

    Candidates passing through the Delta Force pipeline in the 1980s and 1990s were known to have made thorough use of the M1911 pistol, firing the weapons for hours on end every day, according to former Delta operator Eric Haney, in his book Inside Delta Force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMinSC View Post
    And apparently fire them he did. Last paragraph of article:

    Candidates passing through the Delta Force pipeline in the 1980s and 1990s were known to have made thorough use of the M1911 pistol, firing the weapons for hours on end every day, according to former Delta operator Eric Haney, in his book Inside Delta Force.
    All the Glock people on Facebook say 1911s are unreliable though!

    I love my 1911, but I would rather have something with higher ammo capacity on deployment.
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    A properly set up 1911 will run with the best of any handguns available. Most commercial 1911's are not set up properly from the factory and can be tweaked further for reliability. I'm quite sure Delta has their own armorers who know how to affect the correct tweaks to a 1911, so their guns would be able to run all day without malfs.

    I presently have 3 that are set up properly and run like clockwork. One's a mutt AO milspec, ones my training no sights gun and the other is the Ed Brown semi custom Kobra carry commander.

    Back in 77, I had two SA 1911 milspecs properly set up by a retired former navy 1911 armorer. I carried those two guns on the streets for near 3 decades. I won't carry a 1911 for SD that's not been tweaked properly or at least checked to ensure it is set up properly.
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    As far as capacity argument goes for civilian users like myself. 9 does not bother me.
    My son, also a LTC holder just bought a Sig 365 and enjoys telling me he has 15 rounds.
    Which I reply, that's because you need 15 to accomplish what I can do with 9.
    If I need more than 9 rounds before reloading I am definitely in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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    I love my Colt 1911’s, but I’m not stuck on stupid about them, nor am I a Glocktard.

    There are some great oldies that still could do the job, and there are the poly wonders that have taken us in to a new dimension of added “pros” with each having a few “cons” as well.

    If i were still in that line of business, I’d feel just fine with either.
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    General is a rank that is allowed to purchase and use a personal firearm of their choosing. I have never seen where they changed that regulation.
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    Familiarity, proficiency, and confidence would seem to make this a natural choice for him. I'm hard pressed to find any reason to question the selection.
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    I would bet this particular guy has more 1911 time than all of us put together and is totally confident is his choice. Its a good way to be.
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    Kilted, yes 9 is plenty, until it isn't. Sometimes one can't choose one's surrounding. Sometimes it chooses you.

    Seeing as he's a General, I doubt he's in harms way very often. Capacity isn't an issue for someone like that. Until it is.
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