Subtle Chinese Propaganda in the MSM

Subtle Chinese Propaganda in the MSM

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    Some background on this. There is a People's Republic of China concept called the "nine dash line." (aka the 10 dash line or the 11 dash line) It is a map of the South China Sea with a dashed line on it, showing the territory China claims as its own. This area is way in excess of what international agreements say it is. It is believed China's build up of its Navy is to make a play to enforce the nine dash line.

    Here's where it gets interesting. The children's movie "Abominable," produced by Dreamworks, about the mythical snowman of the same name, has a scene that shows a map of the South China Sea with the nine dashed line. As a result, Malaysia will only permit the movie to be shown with the scene cut out. Vietnam banned the film entirely. The Philippines has called for the map scene to be cut and for a “universal boycott” of all Dreamworks movies. Yet the movie will be show in the US, its biggest audience, with the scene still in.

    Also, ESPN was reporting on a Tweet by the Houston Rockets general manager supporting anti-government protests in Hong Kong. ESPN's report used a map with the nine dash line.

    I think this is pretty insidious. Not much shocks me about the MSM, but this does. In the first photo below, you can see a shot of "Abominable" where the line is clear. In the second photo from ESPN, the line is hard to see in the screenshot, but look closely, it is there.

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    Why not just call it what it is - Communist China?
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    Keep America's Navy strong.
    I fear we will be using it in the future in the China Sea.
    Freedom of navigation, the CHICOMS have never heard of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PPS1980 View Post
    Why not just call it what it is - Communist China?
    Having lived in PR China for several years, I can think of a good reason to not call it Communist China. The reason is that it isn't.

    The Economist better describes PR China's economic system as "State Capitalism." I remember once asking a party leader at the place I was working a question after he again insisted that PR China was a socialist country.

    The question was a simple one, "Can you show me an example of Socialism that I would not be able to find in a Capitalist country like the US or Great Britain?"

    His answer was telling. His answer was, "You must not say this to others."

    I think the Economist term of State Capitalism is much more descriptive than Socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasaf View Post
    Having lived in PR China for several years, I can think of a good reason to not call it Communist China. The reason is that it isn't.

    The Economist better describes PR China's economic system as "State Capitalism." I remember once asking a party leader at the place I was working a question after he again insisted that PR China was a socialist country.

    The question was a simple one, "Can you show me an example of Socialism that I would not be able to find in a Capitalist country like the US or Great Britain?"

    His answer was telling. His answer was, "You must not say this to others."

    I think the Economist term of State Capitalism is much more descriptive than Socialism.
    Communist they are, and Communist they remain. The Economist is .....well, I can't say what it is here without being censored and getting a strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasaf View Post
    Having lived in PR China for several years, I can think of a good reason to not call it Communist China. The reason is that it isn't.

    The Economist better describes PR China's economic system as "State Capitalism." I remember once asking a party leader at the place I was working a question after he again insisted that PR China was a socialist country.

    The question was a simple one, "Can you show me an example of Socialism that I would not be able to find in a Capitalist country like the US or Great Britain?"

    His answer was telling. His answer was, "You must not say this to others."

    I think the Economist term of State Capitalism is much more descriptive than Socialism.
    More like crony corporatism...which is alive and well in the USSA too. This is not capitalism. Not in a true sense.
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    There's more to communism than a semi-free capitalist state. When the state can just come in and take your company away from you, that is not capitalism, its communism. When freedom of speech doesn't exist, that's communism. It is a political state, not an economic state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    Keep America's Navy strong.
    I fear we will be using it in the future in the China Sea.
    Freedom of navigation, the CHICOMS have never heard of it.
    If it were not for the US Navy's current sea patrols through the South China Sea the situation would become grave very quickly. The Navy and Marine Corps are currently developing new tactics to deal with the manmade islands that China is construction there. The Marines are undergoing a sea change in operational doctrine. Since Vietnam then have been used like a second Army. The new Commandant has ordered the new emphasis on returning to an amphibious/naval, highly mobile, extremely lethal force. The main motivation for that effort is China.

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    That is insidious. Amazing - a great catch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSafety View Post
    . . . When freedom of speech doesn't exist, that's communism. It is a political state, not an economic state.
    It is a bit interesting to me, today at work I was talking to a co-worker who was very bothered by changes that have been made. He wanted to come out and say what has been bothering him, that he feels the first step of administration above us, is refusing to hear.

    I told him a little story of my time in China, I was chatting with a General Officer (PLAF) at a lunch. He asked me about Freedom of Speech in the context of the phrase, "Political Correctness."

    I told him that it means that we are free to say the right things. The General (equivalent to one star. . . but keep in mind, there is a Chinese USO singer and performer who is a General in the PLA*) found this to be uproariously funny. I think my co-worker got the point.

    But really, in my years there (06-14) I didn't see much Socialism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1942bull View Post
    If it were not for the US Navy's current sea patrols through the South China Sea the situation would become grave very quickly. The Navy and Marine Corps are currently developing new tactics to deal with the manmade islands that China is construction there. The Marines are undergoing a sea change in operational doctrine. Since Vietnam then have been used like a second Army. The new Commandant has ordered the new emphasis on returning to an amphibious/naval, highly mobile, extremely lethal force. The main motivation for that effort is China.
    The S China Sea is a definite flash point that gets little attention. I see it as more dangerous than the Syria situation that dominates the news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Red View Post
    The S China Sea is a definite flash point that gets little attention. I see it as more dangerous than the Syria situation that dominates the news.
    @Texas Red , You are absolutely correct. Obama gave up Syria, and Trump just finished that off. We have no way to rebuild any meaningful presence there now. Russia and Iran now have the dominant hand there. So be it. What is lost is lost. But that loss in minor to what. lost of free navigation in the South China Sea would mean. That Sea is the shipping lane for at least half of the world's products. It is a vital component of US interests and geo political strategy.

    The simple fact is that there is only one nation that can stand up to China in its backyard. We are it. Even if S, Korea, Japan, Phillippines, and Australia combined assets, that conglomerate could not stand up to China. If we do not stand firm, China will literally control the entire western side of the Pacific Rim. That would make lost of influence in the Middle East look inconsequential. We have made a mistake there, but hopefully we will not make one when it comes to China.

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    Correct me if I’m wrong—but the movie “Abominable” was actually MADE in China...so, it would kinda make sense they drew the map that way, no?
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    It also show the entertainment industry for the groveling pigs they have truly become. Anything for ticket sales.
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