Courts value criminals more than LEO lives

Courts value criminals more than LEO lives

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    Courts value criminals more than LEO lives

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    The current trend is to reduce sentences for criminals, early release and to de-criminalize drug offences. Add in requiring no bail and you have a recipe for disaster.

    My guess is with the crime statistics being at a low ebb, there is a concerted, planned effort by the Left/Progressives (aided by conservative/GOP even?) to do these "reforms" so the crime rates will rise, and dramatically if history is any indication.

    After all it will easier to sell gun control, and citizen control which is their ultimate objective as guns are just a first step, when the citizenry is terrified!

    So I'd not be surprised by this.

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    Non citizens seem to get more rights and benefit of the doubt than citizens in this country.
    Look at all the municipalities who will not arrest illegals for infractions that you and I would wind up in jail for because they do not want ICE to get a hold of them.
    These guys murdered two agents in cold blood, reduce sentences, hell they should have gotten the death penalty.

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    How were Mexicans tried and convicted in a US court for crimes committed in Mexico? Why was an ICE agent that far into Mexico?
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    So, if this stands, it sets a precedent that if a crime happens outside of the us, it is outside the jurisdiction of the US courts.

    So, if you go to another country and commit what would be a crime here in the states (like say something to do with income or taxes), the US can not prosecute you because it is outside the jurisdiction of the US Courts?

    Personally, as much as I hate to say it, I do agree with this ruling. If it happened outside of the jurisdiction of the US, the US should not be able to prosecute. These murders happened in Mexico and they should have been prosecuted in a Mexican court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackJack View Post
    So, if this stands, it sets a precedent that if a crime happens outside of the us, it is outside the jurisdiction of the US courts.

    So, if you go to another country and commit what would be a crime here in the states (like say something to do with income or taxes), the US can not prosecute you because it is outside the jurisdiction of the US Courts?

    Personally, as much as I hate to say it, I do agree with this ruling. If it happened outside of the jurisdiction of the US, the US should not be able to prosecute. These murders happened in Mexico and they should have been prosecuted in a Mexican court.
    That's what I'm thinking.
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    But we are the world police, aren't we?
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    https://d31029zd06w0t6.cloudfront.ne...2020-01-21.pdf

    Here is the actual court ruling. It explains why the ruling is what it is. They are not going free. They are still convicted of murder.
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    Were they extradited to the US?The article is greatly lacking in information. Were they tried in Mexico? If the officers were operating lawfully within another country it seems possible that it might fall under some international agreement that they could be tried here. I tend to distrust web sites that try to drum up outrage but don't give any details.

    [Thanks for the link to the actual ruling Havok. That clears things up greatly.]
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    Looks like another Sicario episode. Meh . . .
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