Clerk shoots armed robber then gets fired

Clerk shoots armed robber then gets fired

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    Clerk shoots armed robber then gets fired

    The clerk had worked at the store for 18 years but got fired due to corporate policy.

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    Rules are rules...
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    The last picture and paragraph on the help wanted sign is priceless. No we don't respect your right to self defense, but come work for us and make us a profitable and successful company, however we dont care if you live or die. Sounds like a great set of "benefits" being offered.

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    One has to wonder what the company would have done for the clerk's survivors has the perp shot and killed him. Probably tweeted "our thoughts and prayers are with him..."
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    That company is all wrong (spineless), you reward employees for good performance.
    I'm not inclined to disarm for a concert, game, (entertainment) and I ain't going on a plane or cruise.
    "Wouldn't want to or Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.

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    The problem I have with this is simple. Yes companies do have rules and regulations for their employees to follow. But when someone holds a weapon on you, it has suddenly become a very personal situation. Those rules and regulations are not going to do someone any good at all in cases like this and as far as I'm concerned, are out the window. One would almost hope that the CEO of the company got robbed at gunpoint while visiting one of his stores. Then let's see how he feels about all of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoyVA View Post
    The problem I have with this is simple. Yes companies do have rules and regulations for their employees to follow. But when someone holds a weapon on you, it has suddenly become a very personal situation. Those rules and regulations are not going to do someone any good at all in cases like this and as far as I'm concerned, are out the window. One would almost hope that the CEO of the company got robbed at gunpoint while visiting one of his stores. Then let's see how he feels about all of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MillennialNorth View Post
    The last picture and paragraph on the help wanted sign is priceless. No we don't respect your right to self defense, but come work for us and make us a profitable and successful company, however we dont care if you live or die. Sounds like a great set of "benefits" being offered.

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    From article:
    "Although this may have played out in a way that was self-defense, they (Suncor) may view it as a bad idea to have employees generally armed because the next person might misread a situation and shoot a customer," he said.

    It is very difficult to misread a gun shoved in your face. Trust me on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    From article:
    "Although this may have played out in a way that was self-defense, they (Suncor) may view it as a bad idea to have employees generally armed because the next person might misread a situation and shoot a customer," he said.

    It is very difficult to misread a gun shoved in your face. Trust me on that.
    The "might shoot a customer" part of it is the owner's sole concern. If an employee gets injured or killed during an event, the employer will be insulated from financial repercussions via insurance. If a customer gets capped by an employee, not so much.
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    If I was that clerk and could go back in time, I wouldn't do anything differently. I hope current and potential employees understand that this company places little value on their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talldog View Post
    If I was that clerk and could go back in time, I wouldn't do anything differently. I hope current and potential employees understand that this company places little value on their lives.
    I bet he would work somewhere else.
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    The only people who benefit from GFZs are the criminally inclined. The rest are simply potential victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    The "might shoot a customer" part of it is the owner's sole concern. If an employee gets injured or killed during an event, the employer will be insulated from financial repercussions via insurance. If a customer gets capped by an employee, not so much.
    Decisions have consequences. The employee can either decide to relieve the owner of financial repercussion concerns, or he can decide to live another day to find a new job. Tough decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoyVA View Post
    One would almost hope that the CEO of the company got robbed at gunpoint while visiting one of his stores. Then let's see how he feels about all of this.
    Or sued for failing to provide all necessary measures for a safe work environment.

    Even a slam-dunk win is going to cost the company.

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