Fort Worth dad stops his son from being the next mass shooter.

Fort Worth dad stops his son from being the next mass shooter.

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    Fort Worth dad stops his son from being the next mass shooter.

    Now this is how it is supposed to work.
    No new gun laws needed, just people who care enough to get the mentally ill off the streets.

    https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Po...559885891.html
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    Current gun laws work
    Guy went to several shops to buy a gun, and was turned down at all due to failed background checks

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    I wish such reports got widespread publicity because they do show that current laws do work and that another person's bad intentions can be prevented by decisive action.
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    So he apparently attempted to purchase guns and failed NICS checks, at multiple locations.

    Is that legal, attempting to purchase guns after already being denied? If not, why didn't the law enforcement network network intervene at the last point of attempted sale?

    I'm glad the guy's father took action, otherwise the lack of enforcement of current laws would have let another slip through until tragedy happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by graydude View Post
    So he apparently attempted to purchase guns and failed NICS checks, at multiple locations.

    Is that legal, attempting to purchase guns after already being denied? If not, why didn't the law enforcement network network intervene at the last point of attempted sale?

    I'm glad the guy's father took action, otherwise the lack of enforcement of current laws would have let another slip through until tragedy happened.
    I wonder if the NICS checks at the local gun shops show if a potential purchaser was denied in the past or does it just state denied. If it shows that guy was just recently turned down then a gun shop would be able to drop a dime on him, maybe while he is still in the store waiting for the background check to be completed.
    I would be interested to know if shops get that kind of information when running the check

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    Quote Originally Posted by graydude View Post
    So he apparently attempted to purchase guns and failed NICS checks, at multiple locations.

    Is that legal, attempting to purchase guns after already being denied? If not, why didn't the law enforcement network network intervene at the last point of attempted sale?

    I'm glad the guy's father took action, otherwise the lack of enforcement of current laws would have let another slip through until tragedy happened.
    Ala Dylan Roof and the Texas Church shooter
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    I wonder if the NICS checks at the local gun shops show if a potential purchaser was denied in the past or does it just state denied. If it shows that guy was just recently turned down then a gun shop would be able to drop a dime on him, maybe while he is still in the store waiting for the background check to be completed.
    I would be interested to know if shops get that kind of information when running the check
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimGunn View Post
    In Orygun it doesn't. If yes you get an approval number. If no, it is no.
    It just makes too much sense not to give the gun shops this kind of information
    The current background checks can be tweaked to make then so much more effective.
    In most cases LE can show up at the shop and investigate why he is still "shopping around"
    Or show up at his residence to find out.
    We do not need more laws, just use the ones we have more effectively
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    Quote Originally Posted by graydude View Post
    So he apparently attempted to purchase guns and failed NICS checks, at multiple locations.

    Is that legal, attempting to purchase guns after already being denied? If not, why didn't the law enforcement network network intervene at the last point of attempted sale?

    I'm glad the guy's father took action, otherwise the lack of enforcement of current laws would have let another slip through until tragedy happened.
    Failed NICS checks get reported to the BATF. Should the federal agents choose to, which is almost never, they have to pursue pressing charges when warranted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    It just makes too much sense not to give the gun shops this kind of information
    The current background checks can be tweaked to make then so much more effective.
    In most cases LE can show up at the shop and investigate why he is still "shopping around"
    Or show up at his residence to find out.
    We do not need more laws, just use the ones we have more effectively
    My wife was turned down once. We called TBI and asked why. The lady on the phone said she had no idea why and that it should have passed. She did something on the computer and told us to go back to the store and purchase the gun. We did just that with no issues. Should that "failed" background check show up for her in the future? If a gun shop sees a failure in the past they may decide not to sell a gun to someone. My wife wouldn't (potentially) be able to purchase a gun because of a mistake.

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