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Reply With QuoteToo little info to make a decision, it will be interesting to see what the investigation uncovers.
This is a discussion on Another LEO shoots homeowner/occupant within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; I just saw this on the evening news: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-home-n1065451 . Neighbor said he call the non-911 number to ask the cops to check on his ...
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I just saw this on the evening news: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-home-n1065451. Neighbor said he call the non-911 number to ask the cops to check on his neighbor. He was concerned because her lights were on and her door was open. This is the end result of that concern.
Breaks my heart. Every time.
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Too little info to make a decision, it will be interesting to see what the investigation uncovers.
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There’s body cam footage. I watched it and it looks pretty bad for the cop.Originally Posted by msgt/ret
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They really need to disarm the police.
I agree. Listen to the audio. The officer yells drop the weapon and then immediately fires his weapon. The fastest response imaginable would not have been fast enough to be perceived aatelys complying. I do not mean to blame the officer. I would not wan to ever be in his situation. I know that when you face a gun your reaction is to defend fast. Fortunately for me, it was war and the rules were totally different.
My guess is he loses his job, and I think that is a shame. He clearly reacted to a perceived threat, He did not have the fire discipline to needed, but you do not get that in a police academy. Assuming no hidden agendas on the part of the LEO I would keep him on the force and eventually task him with coaching other officers about threat reaction.
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I went back and watched the video twice, couldn’t really see what the Deputy saw but to shout “show me your hands” then shoot just seconds later I agree based on that he is toast.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
"Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."
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More and more, there are days when I thank the good Lord I'm retired.
Absolute catastrophe.
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Wow.
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Inadequate shoot/don't-shoot training IMHO. These days with the availability of simulators, I don't think there's any excuse but time and time again, situations arise where officers do shoot too soon, often costing an innocent life.
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Adrenalin kicks in and finger on the trigger causes a tightening of the muscles and the trigger goes back? I don’t know. Don’t mean to armchair quarterback because I wasn’t there but I could see it as ONE possibility. In other words, he just didn’t mean to pull the trigger that fast after the command. Heart goes out to the family of the deceased and the officer.
"Put your hands up show me your hands bang", all inside 1.5 seconds. Impressive, but not in a good way.
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- cop was a rookie, came on 4/2018
- made a poor rookie move
- should be fired
- the woman he killed was literally a nerd
- sad
- rip
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I don't know...I am pro LEO, BUT...how does just losing his job suffice here?
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- we are all pro LEO here
- but like every trade there is the good, bad, and the ugly
- this is ugly
- and hopefully everyone can learn from it and something positive can come from this tradgedy
- obviously the issues are complex....
- charges won't stick because legally the cop commited no crime
- you can't prove premeditation or intent or neglegence or reclessness under current TX law
- CA use of force laws jut got changed from 'reasonable' to 'necessary'...
- in CA this case would likley be prosecuted as NOT 'necessary'
- in TX the law says 'reasonable' and in this case the officer can easily argue that it was reasonable to fear for his life under the circumstances (door open, no response, silouette figure with gun in hand)..
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