Opportunity for new urban shooting ranges: malls that are closing?

Opportunity for new urban shooting ranges: malls that are closing?

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    Opportunity for new urban shooting ranges: malls that are closing?

    With 25% of shopping malls projected to close due to online shopping, is that an opportunity for new gun ranges to open in cities around the country?

    Is there a sustainable market for new indoor shooting ranges in high population areas?

    Would the infrastructure of an existing mall be a good starting point to install an indoor shooting complex?

    I could foresee a mall being turned into an entertainment complex... movie theaters, Dave and Busters type gaming restaurants, escape rooms, ropes courses, and a place to rent guns and shoot.

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    That’s a hell of an idea!

    A lot of “lesser” malls are already hemorrhaging profusely, let alone in the next 3-5 years.
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    They're building commercial office/retail developments around me like crazy, and they've never come close to filling the old new ones. I think it would take some major cash to convert the old malls, and I don't think that kind of money is available considering the current atmosphere.
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    You'd need to stay away from the publicly owned malls too - Simon, etc.

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    Like @OldVet notes, you'd need some serious cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by graydude View Post
    With 25% of shopping malls projected to close due to online shopping, is that an opportunity for new gun ranges to open in cities around the country?

    Is there a sustainable market for new indoor shooting ranges in high population areas?

    Would the infrastructure of an existing mall be a good starting point to install an indoor shooting complex?

    I could foresee a mall being turned into an entertainment complex... movie theaters, Dave and Busters type gaming restaurants, escape rooms, ropes courses, and a place to rent guns and shoot.

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    I like the idea, but since most big cities are run by liberals I don't see it happening.
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    The West Edmonton Mall in Canada has an indoor shooting range attached to a gun store.
    The store probably does little business but the range is an attraction.
    VERY expensive...Range $25,gun rental a lot,ammo $40 for 50 rounds???
    When you rent a gun,a SO takes it to the range and then gives it to you.
    He then stands behind you the whole time.
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    After seeing the lead contamination clean up bills for some of the armories in this state; I wouldn't want the liability of contaminating a whole mall with an indoor shooting range.

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    There would be some challenges for sure. Just trying to think up ways we can encourage more shooters to join our ranks, and cities are the key to maintaining an effective voting group for the long term. As cities expand and outdoor ranges become harder to access, we need to get more ranges within reasonable travel time for city dwellers, or they will grow further disconnected from firearms (well, the law abiding ones will).
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    More likely is tear down of the mall to be replaced by high density housing ideally suited to progressive urban hipsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    I like the idea, but since most big cities are run by liberals I don't see it happening.
    100% this. Around here (Central Illinois), you could NEVER get the necessary permits to do such.
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    Local gun store opened an indoor range next to its retail store. While you eyeball all the guns, you hear a muffled pop, pop, pop from next door.
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    We recently had a Point Blank shooting range open in a very high density, highly liberal area. The big challenge I see is the whole stigma of guns/malls/kids, regardless of the reality of what's happening to malls.

    Locally a Sears at one mall is about to be converted to a Top Golf, a bar meets driving range type place. Other malls are converting to condos and office space. I don't have a problem with them closing altogether honestly.
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    Might be a possibility; certainly no shortage of available real estate to look at for something like this. The issue would probably be surrounding residential areas with their perceptions of a gun range. Around here, gun ranges are in the areas of lower class industrials, usually, dirty, unappealing, and with streets filled with commercial trucks of advanced age, etc.
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    An academy that I went to years ago used a closed mall for force on force and active shooter training. Clearing a mall is a real ...

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    Getting zoning ordinances and the legal rigamorole could be cost prohibitive. It would be good use of space though. OOhh, how about a huge laser tag arena?! You could divide into sections like Western, jungle, sci-fi, etc and have laser equipment be period appropriate.
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