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    Another article from the AP.

    If you look at this guys eyes, you see nothing there. The same blank stare that most of the other shooters have exhibited.

    The shooters Grandfather is trying to blame it on "easy" access to weapons. Gotta be a liberal knee jerk.

    Thank God for Mr Howell's presence that day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Counterpoint: had he been allowed to carry on campus--would he, or any others, have been armed? Far too many make the assumption there would be a host of armed students on hand. I have my doubts, just as I have doubts of any numbers of armed individuals around me where it is legal to carry.
    My son at CWU would carry if he was allowed to. You bet. They had an active shooter lockdown this winter, and he felt helpless being locked in the library with only his Guardian Tactical Helix.
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    Our local college here in Utah has no restrictions on faculty, students, or visitors carrying a weapon as long as they hold a valid CCW. We occasionally attend lectures on campus and always go armed. Any faculty member in any school in Utah who has a permit can carry without the knowledge of the school's administration.
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    That's key to success, in my opinion...if the "administration" had to be advised, they'd tack on a ream of rules/regulations. It ought be nobody's business who carries. Texas could take a lesson from Utah on this one!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    Our local college here in Utah has no restrictions on faculty, students, or visitors carrying a weapon as long as they hold a valid CCW. We occasionally attend lectures on campus and always go armed. Any faculty member in any school in Utah who has a permit can carry without the knowledge of the school's administration.
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    I know we've all talked about the decision to engage or fight back for the defense of yourself/others during a mass tragedy. I've been watching this story for a few days. I was really drawn to the mother's quote at the end of the article:
    "While kids were running one way, our son turned and ran towards the shooter," Natalie Henry-Howell*said. "If he was in the room when something like that was happening, and he had turned away, he wouldn't have been able to live with himself."

    Its sad the tools that could have helped him save lives were only in the hands of "special people" ie. Law enforcement.
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    In a time where someone like the Coward of Broward County received a lot of publicity, its is encouraging to hear of other people who still value human life above all else, even their own. Not all heroes wear badges. God bless Riley Howell, and God Bless America.


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    About the killer;

    Airslot said it earlier, the cold black eyes.

    The papers said he had just lost his mother (she died) and he has autism. The calm way he said he had just killed some people, the fact he never was into guns AND the fact is was very important he learn other languages per his grandfather (thatís just weird).


    Who wantís to bet me $100 that the boy was on ANTIDEPRESSANTS!!!

    ALL OF THE SHOOTERS, IN THE PAST 10 YEARS OR SO WERE ON ANTIDEPRESSANTS.

    What will they do? Blame the gun.


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    I just wish heíd have been armed so that we wouldnít have to bless his soul or thank him for sacrificing. As for if students their would have been armed my thought is if the option was their someone might be and these things happen where they do as a result of knowing they are soft targets. Look at Utah hasnít happened their. Look at Aurora as I recall he who Iíll not name went past two theaters to stop at the one with a sign on the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    Our local college here in Utah has no restrictions on faculty, students, or visitors carrying a weapon as long as they hold a valid CCW. We occasionally attend lectures on campus and always go armed. Any faculty member in any school in Utah who has a permit can carry without the knowledge of the school's administration.
    Colorado is the same- I carry on the CU-Boulder campus regularly. My wife can carry , if she so chooses. The only general exception is for ticketed events, like football/basketball games, where they do prohibit carry and have screening checkpoints. Recently, however, secure lock boxes were made available outside these venues for public use during the games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister View Post
    About the killer;

    Airslot said it earlier, the cold black eyes.

    The papers said he had just lost his mother (she died) and he has autism. The calm way he said he had just killed some people, the fact he never was into guns AND the fact is was very important he learn other languages per his grandfather (thatís just weird).


    Who wantís to bet me $100 that the boy was on ANTIDEPRESSANTS!!!


    ALL OF THE SHOOTERS, IN THE PAST 10 YEARS OR SO WERE ON ANTIDEPRESSANTS.

    What will they do? Blame the gun.


    NOT THE NRA, ITíS THE FDA THAT ARE KILLING PEOPLE LETS GET THIS STRAIGHT!


    Nope! Pretty sure that is a losing bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    Our local college here in Utah has no restrictions on faculty, students, or visitors carrying a weapon as long as they hold a valid CCW. We occasionally attend lectures on campus and always go armed. Any faculty member in any school in Utah who has a permit can carry without the knowledge of the school's administration.
    And my point was: even in Utah, seeing as everyone with a permit can carry on campus there, and Utah issues permits to all qualified individuals, do all those eligible qualified individuals have a permit and carry wherever legal?

    Not everyone who could have a permit has one? Not everyone who has a permit actually carries everywhere? No, I think some think everyone would when the numbers say otherwise. Carrying is most often not a question of "can" but "want." I think far more don't want to than do. Even in the "Gunshine State" the percentage of those eligible for a permit to those who have one is a minute percentage.
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    I agree with your point...even here in TX, a fraction of those who could be licensed and carry are...and a fraction of those who can carry daily do...the outcry when something like this happens is "Give us a CHANCE to defend ourselves!!!" In time, we'll probably see mass shootings where someone or more than one someone in the room was armed and just didn't make up his/her mind to act to stop it. Law can't force them to act...but it can be written so as to give the CHANCE that there'll be a legally armed person who can make a difference...that's the thing we need to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    And my point was: even in Utah, seeing as everyone with a permit can carry on campus there, and Utah issues permits to all qualified individuals, do all those eligible qualified individuals have a permit and carry wherever legal?

    Not everyone who could have a permit has one? Not everyone who has a permit actually carries everywhere? No, I think some think everyone would when the numbers say otherwise. Carrying is most often not a question of "can" but "want." I think far more don't want to than do. Even in the "Gunshine State" the percentage of those eligible for a permit to those who have one is a minute percentage.
    Nope, you are absolutely correct. Many who have permits don't bother to carry.
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    Mr. Howell is a good and righteous example of what a dangerous beast is capable of.
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    The shooter is an evil piece of trash and it is people like their grandfather that enable things like this to happen by always blaming an object and never the one that committed the crime. May the shooter's name be lost to history. May the name of Riley Howell, a hero, be well remembered. RIP and God bless you.
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