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This is a discussion on I dont wear tin foil hats, but!!! within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by spclopr8tr Of the hundreds who were present, did anyone else report anything close to what she stated? Or did the men in ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spclopr8tr View Post
    Of the hundreds who were present, did anyone else report anything close to what she stated? Or did the men in black use their memory eraser? (Click on attached GIF.)
    So you believe in aliens, too? Cool! Maybe all the hysterical people didn't notice? I don't have answers, only lots of questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    So you believe in aliens, too? Cool! Maybe all the hysterical people didn't notice? I don't have answers, only lots of questions.
    Yes, I do.
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    I remember someone doing a study on what people remembered in a crisis. They showed 10 people a video and got 10 different views of what was on the video. Will be interesting to see what really happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risasi View Post
    Running thread from yesterday. Iím sure there is some bad info in here, but interesting nonetheless. Donít let the tinfoil on your head get too tight;

    https://twitter.com/love4thegameAK/s...96432184664064



    Addendum: POTUS Trump has something to say...

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...87941182033920



    What does he mean El Paso and Dayton agents are working together? Is there a link between the two incidents?
    Scroll down a bit. The pic of the guy and the pic of the guy in the cop car look like two COMPLETELY different people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1942bull View Post
    I think the woman was simply looking for her 15 minutes of fame. There she was in TV, and the only way she could get time was to embellish a story that she never saw. Her remarks were, IMO, intentional and not some violence driven hysteria. Consider the reactions and reports of others. They ran and had faint recollections of what unfolded: gunshots, people running, a mane with a gun. Out TV personality saw four men, dressed in black, etc, etc. I have seen combat related hysteria of civilians caught in a firefight. They run, hide, and concentrate of saving themselves. When questioned they have little to no details except they were frightened because people were shooting and they tried to save themselves. Our new TV Star was making it up as she was talking.
    in other words, another attention craving liberal liar with NOTHING to lose!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukla View Post
    in other words, another attention craving liberal liar with NOTHING to lose!
    Not really. Just a poor soul without much of a life who gets no attention paid to her and craves some just like thousands of other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novarider View Post
    Scroll down a bit. The pic of the guy and the pic of the guy in the cop car look like two COMPLETELY different people.
    I know, too weird. I quit digging too deeply once I stumbled upon a tea party attended by a white rabbit and a hat maker. This pic though is sort of the one that did it:

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    I donít buy into the craziness claiming they are the same people, but the demeanor and glasses and way they are dressed. I just had to walk away.

    I do think PEF is probably right. Loner, evil, his manifesto is full of inconsistencies. I think it speaks more to what the school systems and lunatic progressive socialist mindset is churning out. Which means we are just going to see more of it. If antifa shows up at the end of the month, ugh...I hate to think how the violence is going to beget more violence.

    As for some of the inconsistencies like similar but different looking pants, 2-3 witnesses reporting multiple shooters. Maybe it's just camera angles and heat of the moment flawed memory...or claim to fame. Taking in the evidence as a whole. It does seem that the manifesto ranting match the facts of him going to the border and shooting up a bunch of Hispanic/Latino people. Like the Christchurch shooter, he just wants to start a war and watch the world burn.

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    I find her credible. BUT, it does matter what brought about the shooting...they are after the guns...and I do believe they are gonna outlaw private ownership of guns in the not too distant future. We are in a losing battle here. I hate pessimism, I really do..but this is a losing battle we are fighting. We lost control of education about 50yrs ago...these chickens are coming home to roost. We are losing numbers on our side everyday and honestly, we don't have the numbers to spare. And, that is my "glass half full" view of where we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risasi View Post
    I know, too weird. I quit digging too deeply once I stumbled upon a tea party attended by a white rabbit and a hat maker. This pic though is sort of the one that did it:

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    I donít buy into the craziness claiming they are the same people, but the demeanor and glasses and way they are dressed. I just had to walk away.

    I do think PEF is probably right. Loner, evil, his manifesto is full of inconsistencies. I think it speaks more to what the school systems and lunatic progressive socialist mindset is churning out. Which means we are just going to see more of it. If antifa shows up at the end of the month, ugh...I hate to think how the violence is going to beget more violence.

    As for some of the inconsistencies like similar but different looking pants, 2-3 witnesses reporting multiple shooters. Maybe it's just camera angles and heat of the moment flawed memory...or claim to fame. Taking in the evidence as a whole. It does seem that the manifesto ranting match the facts of him going to the border and shooting up a bunch of Hispanic/Latino people. Like the Christchurch shooter, he just wants to start a war and watch the world burn.
    SO, are some/you saying that these two pictures aren't the same person. I'm not "facebook or chinese software", but it looks like the same guy. Kind of confused to the narrative/flow of this thread, other than I doubt the "more than one shooter" idea. With all the brass on the ground, I can't imagine El Paso police/whomever switching/hiding/destroying evidence. More than one shooter: brass left will tell the tail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonCents View Post
    shooters dad was a mental health counselor...i guess he was blind to his own son's problems?
    The best friend of my previous (now deceased) wife was the daughter of a well-respected psychiatrist.
    That best friend was a real fruitcake, as nutty as they come, and self-destructive in the extreme.
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    Her psychiatrist father was of the firm belief that, as a psychiatrist, he would be doing something unethical by being an effective parent to her.
    As an MD, he knew that it was unethical for him to treat anyone in his own, immediate family. Thus, being an effective parent was, to him, out of the question.
    So, essentially, she grew up without a male parent. He was there, but, well, he wasn't there for her.

    This story may help us to understand why the shooter's mental-health-counselor father was "blind to his own son's problems."
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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    For the most part, I studiously avoid conspiracy theories. Okay, I'll admit, I don't think Oswald acted alone, but I do believe that Elvis is gone.

    I just ran across this video this morning regarding El Paso. I wasn't looking for anything like this. What possible reason would this woman have to lie about what she saw???? I realize that different people see the same event differently, but I have to admit, I find this very troubling.
    Personally, I don't think she is willfully lying, but simply mistaken. Adrenaline dumps can and do distort time, vision, hearing, and perceptions and recollections of events.

    Given the amount of time the shootings went on, casualty numbers are what I would expect to see from one shooter so armed.
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    Yesterdays Gateway Pundit is stating that the police shot one of the El Paso shooters and killed him. Of course an unnamed source.

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    There are so many inconsistencies about the Las Vegas shooting (and our top national investigative agency has concluded nothing) that I am convinced there were multiple shooters there. Those most likely to be behind that event have plenty of cash to either buy amnesia or cause the better memories to disappear permanently. I find it eminently believable that there may have been multiple shooters in El Paso.

    I question whether those "in charge" will either get to the unshakeable truth behind both shootings, AND have the fortitude to give that truth the light of day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete63 View Post
    SO, are some/you saying that these two pictures aren't the same person. I'm not "facebook or chinese software", but it looks like the same guy. Kind of confused to the narrative/flow of this thread, other than I doubt the "more than one shooter" idea. With all the brass on the ground, I can't imagine El Paso police/whomever switching/hiding/destroying evidence. More than one shooter: brass left will tell the tail.
    This will cook your noodle.

    The one on the left; The CA Garlic Festival killer.

    The one on the right; Our monster from El Paso.

    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/tag...-william-legan (disclaimer: I don't frequent this site, I've seen it before I just grabbed it because they had multiple pics of the two who shall not be named)

    That's the power of persuasion. Without context our brains try to make "things fit". I initially saw both pics and had a "whoa" moment until I dug deeper. But you can see how easy it is to manipulate people, especially in this day and age with the instant gratification of the internet and microwave attention span of the masses. It is so easy to jump to conclusions, especially with internet trolls trying to manipulate everyone.

    So I do believe it probably was one killer in El Paso, and probably isn't affiliated with Antifa. And the Dayton killer probably has no ties with El Paso but was at the very least a leftist and Antifa supporter. Still, there are some real oddities, and I'll keep an open mind if more info comes out. Just not such an open mind there is a chance it will fall out.
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    @Risasi , Thanks for the response, & clarification. That's for sure weird!
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