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    Freedom doesn't seem to be the natural state of humanity.
    Civilization started out with kings and subjects.
    Even ancient Greece the mother of democratic thought was not free.
    The USA was the first successful example of freedom in the world.
    Our 243 year history is just a blip on the historical radar.
    Freedom appears to be reverting back into the natural state of tyranny.
    We will need to fight real hard to keep it.

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    ..well, most of us are older anyway and you gotta die of something right?!

    If I have to die soon then Iíd rather it be in an American Freedom shoot out than in a nursing home with strangers feeding and bathing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSafety View Post
    One election away from becoming communist California, New York, or New Jersey. All the Democratic presidential candidates are calling for it. The Democratic party has come out of the closet as a whole, calling for it. Yup, coming soon to a city near you.
    Unfortunately I think you can add NC, FL and TX as close seconds how things are looking.
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    I read somewhere the following qoute (as close as I can remember): "Republics fail when the electorate realize they can vote themselves money".
    Which leads to a sense of Entitlements to things they haven't worked for. Which the Socialist/Utopians prey upon to get their power.
    Once they have their power, they ALWAYS wield it for themselves and their cronies.
    We've been on that road for a while now and the grade seems to be getting steeper.
    When it comes, as in Venezuala, it will be voted in and have the full force of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    Freedom doesn't seem to be the natural state of humanity.
    Civilization started out with kings and subjects.
    Even ancient Greece the mother of democratic thought was not free.
    The USA was the first successful example of freedom in the world.
    Our 243 year history is just a blip on the historical radar.
    Freedom appears to be reverting back into the natural state of tyranny.
    We will need to fight real hard to keep it.
    Agreed, but I think that natural state is one of living one's life with a focus on the immediate surroundings and problems. Few wish to give much effort beyond that. And that is used by the Kings/Tyrants/Despots/Leaders as a lever to both blind and control them.
    Sad but most can't think critically and won't put out effort if they don't see the results.

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    If they succeed at taking our guns away I'm sure it'll happen (socialism).
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    I guess I'm a dying breed. My dad and father in law told me about the mood of the country right before and just after Pearl Harbor. The general feeling was that Germany was going to force England to her knees and we would be virtually at the mercy of forces we could not begin to defeat. That defeated mentality lasted until a few days after Pearl Harbor.

    However, within about two weeks of the attack on Pearl Harbor, the mood of the entire country changed 180 degrees. They both described the almost instant transformation from meek submissiveness to a terrible anger and determination to destroy both Germany and Japan, no matter the cost. I was reminded of the quote by Japanese Admiral Yamamoto after Pearl Harbor, "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve."

    Within two years America launched a program of militarization such as the world had never seen, either before and since. Within four years, both our enemies had been reduced virtually to ashes.

    I think something like that happened in 1776 with the first shot heard 'round the world. Americans have always risen to the challenge. Socialism (which is in reality just re-flagged Communism) will meet a similar fate. I believe America will come out of that struggle stronger and more determined, (filled with a terrible resolve) having experienced a challenge to our peaceful way of life at home.

    I believe socialism (Communism) can come to America. The only real question to be answered is, "How long will it stay, and how will the dead carcass be carried away?"

    So my answer is different. I believe freedom will never die. We will always have those who wish ill on us. I believe we have it within ourselves to make them sorry they did so.
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    Yes it can absolutely happen. Slowly but surely, we are moving that direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister View Post
    Unfortunately I think you can add NC, FL and TX as close seconds how things are looking.
    According to wallet hub, Texas has the 33rd highest tax burden.
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    I said "no," not because I think it's absolutely impossible, but because I think it's very unlikely.

    In the end, full socialism simply can't work, and no country could maintain it indefinitely. It's a matter of the forces that, once a country starts down the path, will respond and correct it. And those forces are stronger in the US than anywhere ever in the world. We keep starting down the path and then pulling back. So, I don't think the US will ever become a USSR or N. Korea or Venezuela; my concern is the damage that can be caused by those who would attempt to make it so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit212 View Post
    Sure. Everyone's worried about "immigrants" and its actually Middle Class White America that's driving this bus. I'll take black lives matter over spoiled Antifa kids any day of the week.
    I disagree completely. What everyone worried about are criminals that are let free after committing crime after crime! America isnít an open door policy country itís just been treated like one by criminals. America loves Immigrants! Our beautiful First Lady is an immigrant, I have many immigrant friends. They all came to America legally and itís great that they are here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit212 View Post
    Sure. Everyone's worried about "immigrants" and its actually Middle Class White America that's driving this bus. I'll take black lives matter over spoiled Antifa kids any day of the week.
    In reality non-whites (estimated 1/3 of the 2020 electorate) vote left 2:1.

    White men (1/3 of the electorate) vote predominantly right.

    White women (1/3 of the electorate) lean left.

    As the proportion of immigrants increases and white men decreases, those demographic shifts are likely to empower the left.

    https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/essa...20-electorate/

    At this point someone will likely suggest the right just needs to better educate immigrants. That's a doomed strategy, IMO. Does anyone seriously think California can ever be turned red again by the right better educating Californians? Not going to happen.
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    1/3 White men vote to the right
    1/3 white women vote to the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    1/3 White men vote to the right
    1/3 white women vote to the left.
    No comprendo.
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