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    would you act?

    There's a video along with this story of a brutal attack on a security guard at a grocery store when he attempted to stop a shoplifter. A good samaritin intervened, perhaps saving the life of the guard.

    Would you act and if so, how would you react?

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    Would I have reacted ....absolutely....

    What would I have done , I can not say other than , doing my best to keep the pos there until the officers arrived .
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    Considering my age and physical condition my best course of action would be to call 911 and be a good witness.
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    Would you act and if so, how would you react?
    I would have take action. Accordingly I would have down my pistol, aimed it at him, and ordered him to disengage and get on his face on the ground. I assume one of three things would have resulted. 1) The perp runs in which case I treat the victim. 2) The perp comes at me in which case he gets shot center mass. 3) The perp continues the assault in which case I close distance and put a bullet in his shoulder. Of course I would call 911 once the action had been taken. Then, with the police on the way or on the scene I would call the 800 number for CCW Safe to speak with the lawyer on call that day at that time.
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    In my state, you would be fully justified to shoot the attacker.
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    Stomping on someone's face is grave threat of death and bodily harm. You'd be justified to shoot him in any state.

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    Yeah, I could let that go on.
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    Whether I shoot or not would depend...but I can say with some authority that carrying an all steel 1911 might have some unexpected benefits:

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    I would intervene. although I probably would not go to the gun. I would blindside the perp with a disabling strike or pepper spray. I would not give him the chance to surrender, run or square off against me.

    I worked retail security in my 20's and was in this same situation multiple times. I have to question the competence of that guard. We had a lot of people fight and fight hard, but neither I, nor my colleagues wound up on the bottom taking a beat down. When we followed a perp outside, we were always ready for a fight and on the offensive. We carried leather saps in our right rear pockets or SOB. We approached with the left arm out in a "stop" signal, to block, and the right hand on the sap. Whatever came at us got cracked with that sap, be it an arm, leg or face. The sap didn't stop swinging until the perp was surrendering. It could be devastating, but I never saw a perp have to go to the ER as a result. If we had wound up on the ground, then the gun would come out, but that never happened.

    I'm surprised saps have gone out of favor. They were darn effective and only did permanent damage if you wanted to use them that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnius View Post
    Stomping on someone's face is grave threat of death and bodily harm. You'd be justified to shoot him in any state.
    So is punching someone in the face and by so doing, knocking them down where they can continue to be beaten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    Whether I shoot or not would depend...but I can say with some authority that carrying an all steel 1911 might have some unexpected benefits:

    That is one of my all-time favorite movie scenes!
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    Perhaps I should mention that those of us here in Texas may now carry these little beauties for such situations:

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    It goes without saying that avoiding death or serious injury from misapplication requires some instruction.
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    Yes I would go with my can of spray and with offensive boots at the ready.

    @OldChap , We can’t carry any concealed weapon other than a handgun in NC, afaik. Brings up funny recollection from Moosejaw Saskatchewa - Mrs Sax and I were talking to the young lady cutting our hair. Somehow mentioned small tear gas dispensers for bicyclists, runners, or on ladies’ keychains. Nope, she’s neither seen nor heard of ‘em. Not legal in Canada, not found there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAXDM9 View Post
    Yes I would go with my can of spray and with offensive boots at the ready.

    @OldChap , We can’t carry any concealed weapon other than a handgun in NC, afaik. Brings up funny recollection from Moosejaw Saskatchewa - Mrs Sax and I were talking to the young lady cutting our hair. Somehow mentioned small tear gas dispensers for bicyclists, runners, or on ladies’ keychains. Nope, she’s neither seen nor heard of ‘em. Not legal in Canada, not found there.
    I'm glad Texas is ridding itself of some archaic laws (1860's IIRC - might be wrong). Our handgun restrictions came about right after the Civil War when we had such a problem with outlaws. Thankfully saner heads are prevailing now.
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    Wonder what the qualifications for a security guard at King Soopers are? You would suppose some degree of self defense training would be appropriate. Having said that I could not idly stand by and watch an attack such as this without intervening.
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