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    Over 500 signatories from various fields declare to U.N. ‘There is no climate emergency’

    It's not about the numbers, although 500 in agreement strongly refutes the single or even small group nutcase theory.

    Rather, it's about the fact-based logic of the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
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    See some good did come out of global warming.
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    What if technology was actually dematerializing society and you didn't know it.

    https://www.econtalk.org/jesse-ausub...urn-of-nature/

    And what if capitalism was the answer and not Gov intervention. Wealth makes people more capable of coping with change, even if you don't agree that things are changing it's a great point.

    https://www.econtalk.org/bjorn-lombo...limate-change/
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    Climate change has been settled science for millions of years. Mankind's contribution to climate change is far from settled science. I would say allowing 5% for mankind's contribution is likely extremely liberal. I have read that over 90% of Earth's pollution comes from the Orient and Africa.

    Whatever the United States does will not be a blip. Banning plastic straws in the U.S. will not make a blip. It is merely silly.

    If the U.S. made electric vehicles mandatory, building out the electric grid and the hundreds or thousands of coal-fired or natural gas fired power plants to support electric vehicles would do more damage than the gas vehicles they replaced. Solar panels, windmill, and geothermal plants are nowhere near cost effective on a scale to support an all electric vehicle scenario.

    I support cleaning the environment. I support lessening pollution. I support market-based solutions. I don't support competition for government grants by socialist second-rate scientists for rational solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I think your article was accurate for the time, the data I posted was more current, I think. Here is some data that was updated recently:





    2015 (purple line) was an interesting year for Antarctica ice and did see increases in ice extent. However the trend continues to be one of loss. The blue line is 2019 data and shows where we are now. I don't think we'll see many years like 2015 again. But, I suppose year to year variability could replicate 2015.

    And next year.......? Go SOX!

    For however many years we have been told that the ice caps were melting and would be gone by 2014. Then 2015 rolls around and not only are they not gone, they are the largest they’ve been since 1979. All this 2 years after a NOAA scientist altered data to skew the perception of the rate of climate change. What they have been telling everyone in an attempt to strike fear in the public has not turned out to be true. There is a reason they used to call it global warming, and now almost unanimously refer to it only as climate change.
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    Funny how Libs love science when studies they paid for confirm their enviro-hysterics. Of course science does not matter when it comes to determining gender. The science is just make believe. Science is also inconvenient when Lib favored minorities fail at learning. Then science is racist. Everybody got it----Science supports lib hysteria=science good. Science does not support lib agenda=science bad. It must be nice to have no shame whatsoever about blatant hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMinSC View Post
    Funny how Libs love science when studies they paid for confirm their enviro-hysterics.
    Much like Obama's mandate to the CDC, which came back, along with the Harvard Study, that even halving all handguns would result in no measurable drop in crime or suicide, but with a very high probability result in an increase.
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    Leftist Myth Debunked just using common sense:

    The Left: "When the polar ice caps melt, Miami and New York will be under water. Sea Levels will rise threatening the planet with extinction"

    Third Grade Science Student: "If this is true, then why does my glass of ice tea not over flow when the ice cubes melt?"

    The Left: Deer in the head lights.
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    Head of EPA Reluctantly Admits an ALL-OUT Effort would only achieve a 0.03% change

    In 2013, Regina "Gina" McCarthy, the 13th Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) from 2013 to 2017, testified before Congress that even if the United States redirects every available resource to combat global warming, it would, at most, result in a 0.03% reduction in temperature rise as compared to if we did nothing.



    That's not a 3% reduction.

    That's not a 0.3% reduction.

    It's a 0.03% reduction.

    It's merely 1 part in 3,333, thereby leaving 3, 332 parts i.e. 99.97% of all global warming/climate change effects the precisely the same as they would be if we did nothing.

    Let's view a visual representation. In the left square we have 3,333 blue balls, and in the right square we have 3,332 blue balls: The difference between these two is how much difference we'd make if the entire world jumped on board and spent $100 TRILLION dollars between now and the year 2100:

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    Can you tell the difference? Yeah, I can't, either.

    Yet Gina McCarthy, the former Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency admitted under oath before Congress that if America threw it's full effort into combating climate change between now and the year 2100 it would have, at best, a 0.03% effect. That's the difference between a temperature increase of 5.0000 deg F and 5.0015 deg F.

    Can you feel the difference between 5 degrees and 5.0015 degrees? Yeah, me neither.

    Frankly, asking just 1 dollar, much less $100 trillion over 81 years for an incredibly minuscule mitigation of 0.0015 deg F compared to what Earth, if not space weather, is going to accomplish regardless of what we do, is just gross.

    It's a heinous miscarriage of science to even mention it again, much less continue to push for it knowing beyond all reasonable, rational doubt that our efforts will have absolutely no effect whatsoever.

    In summary, we have TWO PROBLEMS:

    1. First, it doesn't actually exist: “There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm,” said the signatories.

    2. Second, even if it did exist, our ability to do anything about it, even with a 100% over-the-top full-on emergency war power effort would have about as much effect as a bug hitting the windshield of an 18-wheeler has in slowing it down.

    At the request of "combatting climate change industry," those who will profit the most, the media props up 16 yo Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg, who appeared on the world stage at the U.N. Climate Action Summit in New York and accused world leaders of robbing her of her future: “How dare you,” she lashed out. “People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing.”

    How dare YOU, Greta, media, and rotten scientists, continue to perpetrate the greatest scam of the 20th and 21st Centuries on the entire world.

    If you really want to help the Earth:

    fight pollution, the release of toxic chemicals into our air, waterways and oceans
    go solar, whereby excess energy generated during the day would efficiently pump water uphill in large hydroelectric reservoirs to be used throughout the night and on cloudy days
    support nuclear fusion, as we have enough fuel (H2 & H3) in our oceans to last several billion years
    support our inalienable right to life, from which our 2A right to self defense against all enemies foreign and domestic lawfully derives
    support the building of monkey bars in every neighborhood so kids everywhere can have fun while climbing and staying fit
    be nice to your parents, siblings, bosses, peers, and especially nice to those who work for you

    There are a billion ways to spend your time that are infinitely more productive and beneficial to the world as a whole that pushing the thoroughly debunked climate change agenda.
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    Well somebody ought to get a hold of Obama. He must have some how missed all the climate change memo's during his two terms. He's about to throw down some serious money on a mansion in Martha's Vineyard that could be underwater by 2100 !
    Maybe he'll be okay since he'll have to back out of the deal when he can't find a sucker to insure it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arejay View Post
    Well somebody ought to get a hold of Obama. He must have some how missed all the climate change memo's during his two terms. He's about to throw down some serious money on a mansion in Martha's Vineyard that could be underwater by 2100 !
    Good one! I wonder if Al Gore's California mansion is more than 3 feet above sea level. I wonder how many billionaires are ignoring the issue because there is no issue.

    Obama's mansion is A-OK. See? Says so online. You can always trust what you find online...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Cholestorol-laden foods are the bread and butter of the cardiology business.
    No, you are thinking of a sedentary inactive lifestyle.. Thats where the big bucks are... btw, cholesterol makes up 25% of the human brain.. If you want to believe scientists, many say that ultra low cholesterol diets are contributing to afflictions such as senile dementia and alzheimers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebee View Post
    No, you are thinking of a sedentary inactive lifestyle.. Thats where the big bucks are... btw, cholesterol makes up 25% of the human brain.. If you want to believe scientists, many say that ultra low cholesterol diets are contributing to afflictions such as senile dementia and alzheimers.
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    And now the Puffington Post is saying Thanksgiving celebrations are contributing to global warming. I don’t commonly read the Puffington Post but I get the link in an email so I had to go to the source, the northern end of a south bound horse.

    The Environmental Impact Of Your Thanksgiving Dinner

    A recent report from National Geographic and the Climate Action Tracker found that we are far from reaching our 2020 goal of lower emissions.

    In 2015, the U.S. and 196 other countries signed the Paris climate agreement (which President Donald Trump is now pulling out of) with the goal of limiting the increase of global average temperature to 1.5 degrees Celsius. Despite having originally signed the agreement, the U.S.’s action on the issue has been “insufficient,” according to Climate Action Tracker, an independent scientific body that holds government to account on climate action.

    With that in mind, one wonders: How much damage are we doing with our epic Thanksgiving meal every year? We spoke with three researchers to find out more about Thanksgiving’s carbon footprint.

    It turns out that your food isn’t the biggest holiday culprit of carbon dioxide emissions – traveling for the meal is.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/thank...b0d5b78944bc6e
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