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    For around $400 you could build a complete new PC that would run circles around your current one. It would be an AMD based system with integrated graphics (just fine unless youre trying to do any gaming), 16gb of RAM, and 1TB of SSD storage. With a system like this, from the time you press the On button, the system will boot and you will be operating the computer in 5-10 seconds. You could put it all together in an hour or less, and it would give you a couple more years of service. You would still need to buy a copy of Windows 10, but I didnt include that in the price, since you would need to upgrade to that anyway, no matter which way you go, thats a cost you will have.

    Click the link and that would bring you to a list of parts that are all compatible that would give you a completed working PC. Im assuming you have everything else you need, like a monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

    PCPartPicker Part List

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck808 View Post
    For around $400 you could build a complete new PC that would run circles around your current one. It would be an AMD based system with integrated graphics (just fine unless youre trying to do any gaming), 16gb of RAM, and 1TB of SSD storage. With a system like this, from the time you press the On button, the system will boot and you will be operating the computer in 5-10 seconds. You could put it all together in an hour or less, and it would give you a couple more years of service. You would still need to buy a copy of Windows 10, but I didnt include that in the price, since you would need to upgrade to that anyway, no matter which way you go, thats a cost you will have.

    Click the link and that would bring you to a list of parts that are all compatible that would give you a completed working PC. Im assuming you have everything else you need, like a monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

    PCPartPicker Part List
    hmmmmmm........
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    My advice, if you elect to build your own system, is to buy all of the components from the same vendor. Then, if you have compatibility problems, you won't have the vendors each pointing the finger of blame at the other.

    Also, solid state drives have been getting better but I understand their is a read/write service life issue. The system monitors for failing memory locations and moves the data to unused areas to avoid corruption. This means you need more capacity than what you might think. The better SSDs are more expensive but are said to handle things more reliably. This suggests a bit of research is needed to verify and update this information as things have likely changed. Best practice would be storing the OS and other programs that are not frequently altered on the SSD and using a HDD for your data.

    You should back up your data before handing your computer over to anyone for modifications; even if they are "pros".

    One last suggestion: If you elect to buy a new computer, after you have confirmed its reliability, you might consider installing a Linux distribution on the old one. I'd recommend Mint; it's pretty friendly, and of course, free.
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    What about Chromebook? I don't have one, and know nothing about them, but my volunteer org is switching us to Chromebook this spring. They look to be less expensive than Windows laptops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    Open a Google search tab. Define your search as follows: defensivecarry:search terms i.e. defensivecarry:upgrade windows 7
    With all due respect, and I mean that, are you saying we need Google to search DC? Have we given up on the site's native search function? FWIW, we might as well. It hasn't worked well for me for months. I put in words that I know have used uniquely on past posts and it does not show up.

    Although I am not all that comfortable mixing DC and Google. Something bad is bound to come out of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoganbeg View Post

    Also, solid state drives have been getting better but I understand their is a read/write service life issue. The system monitors for failing memory locations and moves the data to unused areas to avoid corruption. This means you need more capacity than what you might think. The better SSDs are more expensive but are said to handle things more reliably. This suggests a bit of research is needed to verify and update this information as things have likely changed. Best practice would be storing the OS and other programs that are not frequently altered on the SSD and using a HDD for your data.
    Hard drives are a dead technology. SSDs are every bit as reliable as a HD, if not more so. Theres no reason to use a HD unless you need massive bulk storage, like 4-5TB or more and cannot afford enough SSDs to get what you need. But realistically, unless youre a content creator and shooting and saving tons of high quality video (in a demanding format, like 4k) or running a server, you dont have those huge requirements for storage. If you do, you can buy something like a 10TB HD for $250 or less, but for 90% of people, a 500gb SSD will be good, and for the other 10% a 1TB SSD would be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockymonster View Post
    My existing HP has this configuration:

    i5-2400 3.1 GHz
    4 Gig of RAM
    500 Gig hard drive

    Upgrade to Windows 10, or buy new CPU (refurb or new)?
    If upgrading the OS, I’m not a geek....can I do it myself?
    Trying to keep my cost down.
    With that system I'd buy more ram and buy a decent size SSD. Install windows 10 on it fresh. Then turn your old HD into a slave drive.

    You get a fresh new system that will boot up in seconds and you can easily access your old data.

    The other option is buy a whole new system. Cyber Monday should have some good deals.

    What exactly do you want/need to do with the computer?

    Another option which is ultra cheap. Buy a 500Gig SSD (or bigger) and clone your current HD to it. It's super simple. You will be shocked at how much faster it will run.
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    Apple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWOUSCG View Post
    Apple.
    Took long enough for that comment to show up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novarider View Post
    With that system I'd buy more ram and buy a decent size SSD. Install windows 10 on it fresh. Then turn your old HD into a slave drive.

    You get a fresh new system that will boot up in seconds and you can easily access your old data.

    The other option is buy a whole new system. Cyber Monday should have some good deals.

    What exactly do you want/need to do with the computer?

    Another option which is ultra cheap. Buy a 500Gig SSD (or bigger) and clone your current HD to it. It's super simple. You will b.e shocked at how much faster it will run.
    HP doesn’t support my CPU running Windows 10
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWOUSCG View Post
    Apple.
    Here's something a lot of people don't know or don't think about. Apple makes the best hardware, they really do, but some people don't want the operating system. I don't like the way it works and some of the programs I use won't run on it.

    But you can load Windows on a Mac. And I am not talking about an emulation program. I mean you have a tech strip the Mac hard drive down, take the iOS off of it and load it up as a native Windows computer. The Mac processor runs Windows better than most processors made for Windows. It is wicked fast. We had that done to my wife's MacBook and she loves it!
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    @jmf552 , it’s not the “Defensivecarry” search function, it’s VBulletin, which sucks. I do not like Google, but their search engine is decent, if nothing else.

    I run Apple A to Z. Great hardware. I have a Dell W10 too, for some geek stuff.

    I didn’t recommend Apple because that was not the question, although I have run Windows on my old Macs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    @jmf552 , it’s not the “Defensivecarry” search function, it’s VBulletin, which sucks. I do not like Google, but their search engine is decent, if nothing else.
    Yeah, I hear you. I have an easier time finding what I want on Amazon through Google than through Amazon's own search function. I just worry that gun content might get messed with by an outfit like Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    Here's something a lot of people don't know or don't think about. Apple makes the best hardware, they really do, but some people don't want the operating system. I don't like the way it works and some of the programs I use won't run on it.

    But you can load Windows on a Mac. And I am not talking about an emulation program. I mean you have a tech strip the Mac hard drive down, take the iOS off of it and load it up as a native Windows computer. The Mac processor runs Windows better than most processors made for Windows. It is wicked fast. We had that done to my wife's MacBook and she loves it!
    Umm, aren't Macs running Intel processors these days? Same as most Windows PCs?

    Granted, Apple may do some of the support work better under the hood, but it's not the processor that makes a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdprof View Post
    One big issue with upgrading from 7 to 10 is that many/most big name brand computers have hardware that needs their drivers. If the maker doesn't provided drivers for newer OS versions, you may lose some functionality.

    So before considering upgrade to 10, check the maker's support site. If they didn't update major drivers (video and audio in particular) I'd shy away from that route.

    Also look at how much RAM you have. Win10 functions in 4GB, but I think it's much better with at least 8.
    It runs a LOT better with 32 GB. But, not all mobo's support more than 16 GB.
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