This is a discussion on Do you believe in man made climate change (global warming)? within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by retired badge 1 The "climate change" movement (formerly known as "global warming" and the "imminent coming of the Second Ice Age" before ...
I am liberal and believe in man made climate change.
I am liberal and do NOT believe in man made climate change.
I am conservative and believe in man made climate change.
I am conservative and do NOT believe in man made climate change.
I have no opinion on this topic.
Many of the critics who point out that predictions on future climate trends espoused by environmentalists are based on unscientific interpretation of inadequate data also have a blind faith belief in virgin births, resurrection, and literal transubstantiation. They say they have a science centered education and a constitution that can only be swayed by hard evidence yet sacrifice that high ground when it comes to their own unflappable belief in phenomenon that can not be proven through data or scientific evidence. That is not intended to be a criticism but a perspective on the power of belief systems that guide our thoughts and actions.
In the past several weeks this off-topic forum on a really great firearms site has hosted threads on white privilege, child sexual predators, border guards as Nazis, racism, antisemitism and those dastardly millennials. Now a global warming poll. C'mon. No more trolling, eh?
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I believe that man needs to be a good steward to the planet.
I practice leave no trace principles in the outdoors.
I try not to waste natural resources.
I do not want to go back to living in the Stone Age.
I do not think that man is important enough to Mother Nature to destabilize her on a global level.
As far as man made climate change, just follow the money.
That will tell y’all what it is all about
The reason this HOAX is no longer called ""GLOBAL WARMING""????. Because when the climate has stayed the same, when the seas have NOT started to rise and inundate coastal cities, when entire continents have record cold summers, etc, the term "global warming simply can't be used.. now, "CLIMATE CHANGE" is different.. You can explain everything and anything with that phrase..
Cold CC... anything at all can be attributed to climate change, but can't be to global warming.. its really that simple... bob
As was mentioned in the first post, many people are confusing polluting, and the effects that has, as climate change. Which, it does not. It negatively impacts the local region. With that aspect in mind, when you look at the US now, and the US when I was a child in the mid-80s you will see a remarkable change in the local weather for much of the US. Acid rain was once an issue, and changing how we handle discharge from mostly coal burning sources, we eliminated that problem.
Granted, that was not a climate issue that impacted the normal cycle of heating/cooling as far as I know. It just made the rain sting and killed off fish in smaller bodies of water.
Take pollution out of the equation, and I have not been presented with any credible evidence we impact the natural cycle. All of the people claiming we do have made predictions that have failed to happen. Had they been right when I was a child, most of Florida would now be underwater. Bad prediction after bad prediction has made me stop believing the climate criers. That along with other fellow scientists who have pointed out the grievous issues with the models used by the climate criers. Bad/fake date, and omitted data are common problems with the scientists who fail to use the basics of their "profession" if you can call them scientists at all now.
Man made climate change - no.
However, that doesn't mean that we have not contributed to it. To what level, I have no idea, but I am sure that we have contributed to it a little bit.
The warmists have been monkeying with the historical data, lowering the higher temps in the 30s (hottest decade) to make the current decades seem hottest, in order to scare you.
The warmists have abandoned the scientific method, and work assiduously to attack and minimize and even ridicule dissenting scientific opinion.
The climate models have so many variables that they can't really produce a predictive output without nonsensically wide error bands. And, they don't have data for all of the inputs anyway. So, they make assumptions, so many of which the assumptions drive the output predictions. This is why all of the major predictions about "global warming" were so embarrassingly in error (disasters that never, ever happened).
I, as do you, think that physics is an important subject. (I'm a scientist) But far from being a law (such as Newton's laws of motion, for example), global warming/climate change is poorly supported and does not even qualify as a theory. In fact, it's not even enough to be an hypothesis. (I suspect that it's the "big con".
For your reading pleasure, my friend, I recommend Brian Sussman's book, Climategate.
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Of course the Earth warms and cools & its cyclical.
How did the last 6 ice ages begin and end before humans were any influence at all on the climate?
The Earth cooled down and warmed up again all by itself.
I think that mankind has done much more pressing damage to the global environment than any alterations to the weather.
And we are probably entering into a global cooling cycle anyway.
Which will have shorter instances of bizarre and seemingly unnatural warmer temperatures because...it's the doggone weather and it's often fickle...like the weather has historically always been.
The U.S. has actually cleaned up its act to an amazing degree.
At this point in time NOTHING is going to stop China and India from being the dominant world polluters. That is just the way it is.
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Sea/Ocean levels rose dramatically thousands of years ago.
Which is WHY ancient coastal cities, ports, roads, temples, etc are now underwater worldwide.
Methane is profoundly more of a "greenhouse gas " than Carbon Dioxide.
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I do believe that there are genuine problems that need to be addressed.
Kaput nuclear power plants in Japan where radioactive contamination has now reached the U.S. Huge Problem that has been seriously downplayed and under reported.
We do need a short term moratorium on over fishing our oceans in order to allow marine life to catch up.
I'd be pretty concerned about the many thousands of 55 gallon drums of highly toxic waste that Russia dumped into the oceans that haven't ruptured open yet.
Clear cutting vast areas of rain forest would be a real concern if anybody is really wanting to do anything about CO2 levels in the atmosphere.
And we should not be wiping out entire species of exotic plants when we are not aware of their potential medicinal properties yet.
We need more "food crop" diversification for obvious reasons.
The planet is seriously lacking in pharmaceutical companies doing research and development on new antibiotics...because there is just not any profit to be made on any medications that are only used short term.
I could write an entire list but, you folks get the general idea.
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Man-made climate change huh? Hmm. You mean; "High Frequency Active Auroral Program" (HAARP)?
"The HAARP project website acknowledged that experiments were conducted which used electromagnetic frequencies to fire pulsed, directed energy beams in order to "temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere." Some scientists state that purposefully disturbing this sensitive layer could have major and even disastrous consequences. Concerned HAARP researchers like Dr. Michel Chossudovsky of the University of Ottawa and Alaska's Dr. Nick Begich (son of a US Congressman) present evidence suggesting that these disturbances can even be used to trigger earthquakes, affect hurricanes, and for weather control."
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