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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    Another shining example of the spread and increasing severity of symptoms exhibited by liberal, socialist communist politicians' brains after long years of drug use, the CA "government" (and I use the term loosely) is now going after Ham Radio licensees.

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    When I was on USS Eisenhower in the Indian Ocean during the Hostage Crisis, which was a nine month, blue water deployment, there was a sanctioned Ham Radio station on board run by sailor-volunteers. Most of the time we were EMCON, so they couldn't use it, but on those occasions we dropped out of EMCON, people on the ship could sign up to make short phone home calls home, facilitated by the operators. It was really cool. They would contact a Ham in the states, who would do a phone patch. It was the only calls home most people got the whole nine months, outside of a short port call in Singapore. Everyone really appreciated that.
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    I'm studying for my first, Technician Amateur Radio licensing exam in about three weeks. For some reason, the gov't telling me I shouldn't or limiting access just makes me want it more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    When I was on USS Eisenhower in the Indian Ocean during the Hostage Crisis, which was a nine month, blue water deployment, there was a sanctioned Ham Radio station on board run by sailor-volunteers. Most of the time we were EMCON, so they couldn't use it, but on those occasions we dropped out of EMCON, people on the ship could sign up to make short phone home calls home, facilitated by the operators. It was really cool. They would contact a Ham in the states, who would do a phone patch. It was the only calls home most people got the whole nine months, outside of a short port call in Singapore. Everyone really appreciated that.
    That is a great way to serve the country and our troops. The service is called MARS - Military Auxiliary Radio Service and is operated outside normal treaty-approved, designated Amateur radio frequencies by licensed Amateur Radio operators. Military members are trained to operate in accordance with DOD requirements and certified before operating. The civilian members must be appropriately licensed Amateur Radio operators with station requirements to fulfill the mission.

    It is an odd service because civilian operators have far greater authority than the military operators. The civilians operate under authority of Congress, though the FCC, and are licensed to operate within international treaty bands with so-licensed operators from other countries. Indeed I used to regularly talk with USSR military operators in US Amateur Radio bands at such times as they were bored or just wanted to talk with an American. I think it was a hoot for them to talk to us about Hollywood movies and other aspects of Americana. Some of them spoke very, very good English!
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    Quote Originally Posted by m5215 View Post
    CA is going to get real creative getting new taxes with more and more of their productive tax paying population leaving and being replaced with homeless non-tax paying welfare recipients.
    Ca is already getting creative in finding ways to back fill the lost taxes! They just created a tax on Electric cars. They just noticed that electrics don't pay fuel tax! They are cracking down on those that register there cars in other states. They are charging state income tax on people who have moved out but still have a home here. and even those that just have stuff in storage here! Its going to get worse before it gets better! DR
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    BTW: I do not think that California will begin harassing ham-radio operators in order to receive income from them.
    The state could do that with less effort and more success by charging the operators nominal amounts for their repeater placements. High taxes cause people to leave the market (see: Laffer Curve), at which point the taxing agency actually receives less income.

    I suggest that, as with guns, California is seeking control and prohibition. Ham-radio operators are a threat to the overweening Socialist state, because they permit the people to communicate outside of state control.
    That sort of communication could aid and abet a revolt against the state's power. Therefore, uncontrolled communication among the people must be restricted or abolished.

    (Ask about how many ordinary Soviet Russians had ham-radio equipment. My bet is that there were very few of them, especially outside of the Nomenklatura — that is, the politically powerful — social circle.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    That is a great way to serve the country and our troops. The service is called MARS - Military Auxiliary Radio Service and is operated outside normal treaty-approved, designated Amateur radio frequencies by licensed Amateur Radio operators. Military members are trained to operate in accordance with DOD requirements and certified before operating. The civilian members must be appropriately licensed Amateur Radio operators with station requirements to fulfill the mission.

    It is an odd service because civilian operators have far greater authority than the military operators. The civilians operate under authority of Congress, though the FCC, and are licensed to operate within international treaty bands with so-licensed operators from other countries. Indeed I used to regularly talk with USSR military operators in US Amateur Radio bands at such times as they were bored or just wanted to talk with an American. I think it was a hoot for them to talk to us about Hollywood movies and other aspects of Americana. Some of them spoke very, very good English!
    I used MARS a few times to call home from Cam Rahn Bay and Da Nang.
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    HF does not require those repeaters. I spoke with folks from Europe, South America, South Africa, Puerto Rico and other states in the US last Saturday. $100 endfed HF antenna and a 100W radio.

    VHF is probably best suited for local assistance though. I usually take my handheld and program in the local police frequencies when in rural cell free areas. It illegal to transmit on them, but I figure that is the least of my worries if I need police assistance.

    It is a powerful tool for sure.
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    For years I've carried a VHF/UHF HT with either an extra long rubber duckie or an extendable when going hunting, far longer range communication with the people I hunt with than the FRS radios. Many places I can even get up on/near the peaks and hit repeaters, often from places where my cell phone gets nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1911A1 View Post
    BTW: I do not think that California will begin harassing ham-radio operators in order to receive income from them.
    The state could do that with less effort and more success by charging the operators nominal amounts for their repeater placements. High taxes cause people to leave the market (see: Laffer Curve), at which point the taxing agency actually receives less income.

    I suggest that, as with guns, California is seeking control and prohibition. Ham-radio operators are a threat to the overweening Socialist state, because they permit the people to communicate outside of state control.
    That sort of communication could aid and abet a revolt against the state's power. Therefore, uncontrolled communication among the people must be restricted or abolished.

    (Ask about how many ordinary Soviet Russians had ham-radio equipment. My bet is that there were very few of them, especially outside of the Nomenklatura – that is, the politically powerful – social circle.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1911A1 View Post
    (Ask about how many ordinary Soviet Russians had ham-radio equipment. My bet is that there were very few of them, especially outside of the Nomenklatura — that is, the politically powerful — social circle.)
    Not any in the old USSR that I ever talked to. Most were military. A very few would not tell you what their function was. I always had the feeling they would have loved to be able to see my home - to spy on me. Kind of creepy.
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    One of the old guys I used to shoot with was a retired Merchant Marine Radio operator. He was fluent in several languages, and would tell story's ... He said that most of his dealings with the Soviets was them wanting to trade for American movies! John Wayne was there favorite! This was back in the Beta Max days.

    He also said that until you could see the Soviet ship you never really knew if it was a real ship or a listening post! DR
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    Quote Originally Posted by BentLink View Post
    I'm studying for my first, Technician Amateur Radio licensing exam in about three weeks. For some reason, the gov't telling me I shouldn't or limiting access just makes me want it more.
    ^ me too!

    I remember asking bout them when I first joined this forum. We discussed ham radios last night, CWO’s not that interested but I am. My grandpa was using them back when phones were still stuck to the wall and I remember him having a whole room with world maps and where all he had talked to someone marked with stick pins. It was called “the CB room” but was a ham radio. He had a massive antenna on the house and they lived just a few miles from the Atlantic Ocean which prolly made the signals good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister View Post
    ^ me too!

    I remember asking bout them when I first joined this forum. We discussed ham radios last night, CWO’s not that interested but I am. My grandpa was using them back when phones were still stuck to the wall and I remember him having a whole room with world maps and where all he had talked to someone marked with stick pins. It was called “the CB room” but was a ham radio. He had a massive antenna on the house and they lived just a few miles from the Atlantic Ocean which prolly made the signals good?
    These days both the radio equipment and the antenna have shrunk in size! But getting them up in the air is a good idea.
    I imagine you are a person that likes to talk, So having a world wide audience would be good for you! Go For It! DR
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