The newest scandal

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    The newest scandal

    Two of the game's brightest minds, Alex Cora and AJ Hinch, are now unemployed, forced to confront the possibility that their suddenly tainted reputations might prevent them from ever managing again. Two of the sport's most dominant teams, the 2017 Houston Astros and the 2018 Boston Red Sox, now shoulder the reputation of cheaters, their illegal sign-stealing practices spoiling the memories of their greatness...

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    There has been cheating as long as there has been sports.
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    MLB. Billion dollar industry. What'd ya expect. Sport's mafia, like all of it. Got ALL the drama TOO!
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    A little off thread, but Mrs OldChap and I ran out of things to watch and decided to give Netflix one more go with their documentary about Aaron Hernandez.

    A huge dose of long-winded repetition, but if you come away from that with any respect whatsoever left for anyone involved with the "National Felons League", it would surprise me.

    I know that is an overly broad brush stroke as there are some players worth their weight in gold because of their concern for people ( JJ Watt for one ), but the team owners?

    It does give a lot of insight into the "winning is the only important thing" mentality that plagues these multi-billion dollar outfits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    A little off thread, but Mrs OldChap and I ran out of things to watch and decided to give Netflix one more go with their documentary about Aaron Hernandez.

    A huge dose of long-winded repetition, but if you come away from that with any respect whatsoever left for anyone involved with the "National Felons League", it would surprise me.

    I know that is an overly broad brush stroke as there are some players worth their weight in gold because of their concern for people ( JJ Watt for one ), but the team owners?

    It does give a lot of insight into the "winning is the only important thing" mentality that plagues these multi-billion dollar outfits.
    I think players are starting to get wise slowly in the NFL....Look at Luke Kuechly for the Panthers...28 yrs old and one of the best just called it a career.
    You are seeing more and more get out early for their health.
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    I just don't understand. We always worked to steal the signs of the opposing team in HS (not good enough for NCAA or Minors). Often we were successful, many times not. They were doing the same thing. How is this an issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PPS1980 View Post
    I just don't understand. We always worked to steal the signs of the opposing team in HS (not good enough for NCAA or Minors). Often we were successful, many times not. They were doing the same thing. How is this an issue?
    I believe the issue is using electronics to assist in stealing signs, not that signs are stolen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I believe the issue is using electronics to assist in stealing signs, not that signs are stolen.
    Yes, you ARE correct. BUT, TO ME, that's the same as saying "I only steal from rich folks & the government, BECAUSE THEY can afford it"!
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    My solution is simple.

    From now on, the pitcher, and only the pitcher decides what to throw. No input from anyone, just throw.
    I think that would make things more interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I believe the issue is using electronics to assist in stealing signs, not that signs are stolen.
    Sorry, but back in the day we used film to capture the play-by-play from an outfield camera with a telephoto. One job of the student manager was to analyze the catchers signs and the subsequent pitcher throw in order to position batters in the future to relay signs from 1st (if possible) and 2nd to the batter in subsequent games. Seems to me that MLB should be more concerned about things like drugs, the sky-high cost of attending a game, etc.
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    Here's the type of "sports hero" I can respect. Even lives down by O.V. Innovator, NOT a thief!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete63 View Post
    Here's the type of "sports hero" I can respect. Even lives down by O.V. Innovator, NOT a thief!

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=don+ga...&setlang=en-US
    What about Cole Trickle and Rowdy Burns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete63 View Post
    Here's the type of "sports hero" I can respect. Even lives down by O.V. Innovator, NOT a thief!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Struckat View Post
    My solution is simple.

    From now on, the pitcher, and only the pitcher decides what to throw. No input from anyone, just throw.
    I think that would make things more interesting.
    It would be nice for the catcher to know what's coming, especially if the pitcher is throwing a knuckleball.
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    I know this is "Off Topic and Humor," but this is not humorous and professional and college sports is so off topic it ought to be on another forum. You might at least put the sport name in the title, so most of us who are concerned with Defensive Carry won't click on it.

    Or, alternatively, I can start posting on the following, actually real sports. They make as much sense as US professional sports and no one takes a knee for The Anthem and the players don't get busted for beating up women, drugs, rape, dog fighting, etc.
    • Wife Carrying
    • Chess Boxing
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    • Shin Kicking
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