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Corona Virus.....

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    Corona Virus.....

    Just wait until this hits the homeless population in California....just my thoughts. 7th case according to CDC in California.

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    I am starting to suspect that the panic over this is a media-created hype-fest. The death rate from this appears not to be much different from a serious strain of the flu, and definitely not as significant as the SARS outbreak from a few years ago. Certainly precautions should be taken for vulnerable populations (infants, elderly, immune-compromised), but beyond that, I'm not seeing this as something to panic about.

    The hype over it is certainly tanking the stock market, though. Hmm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraySkies View Post
    I am starting to suspect that the panic over this is a media-created hype-fest. The death rate from this appears not to be much different from a serious strain of the flu, and definitely not as significant as the SARS outbreak from a few years ago. Certainly precautions should be taken for vulnerable populations (infants, elderly, immune-compromised), but beyond that, I'm not seeing this as something to panic about.

    The hype over it is certainly tanking the stock market, though. Hmm....

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    The current strain of flu has killed far more than this Mexican-beer virus. As for the stock market drop, the virus is just an excuse to reap some profits and buy back at a lower price.
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    I remember in the Fall of 2014, people on this forum were all panicked about the Ebola virus. People were doing the Chicken Little routine. They were all for violating anyone's rights who might even have a chance of carrying the virus, even if there were no symptoms. Supposedly liberty-loving people here were all for imprisoning Kaci Hickox, a nurse who have bravely volunteered to treat Ebola patients in Africa and have her lose all her rights because her body temperature was slightly elevated when she returned to this country. She was an expert in Ebola, and she said she didn't have it. A major medical journal and the Doctors Without Borders organization supported her. Even after she tested negative for the virus, NJ still kept her in a quarantine tent and people on this forum were all for it. She is now suing NJ.

    And of course, for all the paranoia, the Ebola thing never amounted to anything in the US.
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    I finally got my flu vaccine a little over a week ago. Made my arm sore for a few days. Turning into a wimp in my old age. I hope this one is not what they are saying it might be. May still a little early yet to be sure medically.
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    They way I see the news is that it hasn't reached pandemic proportions yet but what is has done is get out of control much quicker than anything they have seen up to this point. It has already, or soon will, surpass the SARS count. But I feel the reason they are concerned is not because of the actual numbers, but because of the % per capita. I'm not putting a number up because it's changed fairly often recently. The outbreak itself isn't terrible, but the number it kills is.

    FWIW- I'm not letting it ruin my sleep.

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    Until it starts to reach the lethality of the Spanish Flu of 1918 I am not going to worry much about it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
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    On the Columbia River roughly eight miles from the ocean is the Knaptton Cove Heritage Center. It's what left of the quarantine station and it closed sometime in the 1930's. Every ship was inspected for disease before being allowed up river to Portland. If infected were found that's where you ended up. I imagine every port of entry in the Republic had something similar.Photo' Past and Present

    They must not do a thorough job of teaching history because at one time infectious diseases were very much a part and fact of life in this country for a majority of our history. It doesn't seem like it's remembered . An example would be that not only was the Continental Army and G. Washington fighting the British, they were also battling a small pox outbreak. A bad bad one.

    People weren't so much about hurting feelings or appearances as they were about containing a deadly outbreak. Serious business.
    I can still remember the fear and concern caused by Polio and other infectious diseases in my childhood. We had one neighborhood kid with Polio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    I remember in the Fall of 2014, people on this forum were all panicked about the Ebola virus. People were doing the Chicken Little routine. They were all for violating anyone's rights who might even have a chance of carrying the virus, even if there were no symptoms. Supposedly liberty-loving people here were all for imprisoning Kaci Hickox, a nurse who have bravely volunteered to treat Ebola patients in Africa and have her lose all her rights because her body temperature was slightly elevated when she returned to this country. She was an expert in Ebola, and she said she didn't have it. A major medical journal and the Doctors Without Borders organization supported her. Even after she tested negative for the virus, NJ still kept her in a quarantine tent and people on this forum were all for it. She is now suing NJ.

    And of course, for all the paranoia, the Ebola thing never amounted to anything in the US.
    She was wrong then. She is wrong now. Thankfully she was healthy. Quarantine over a virus that severe isn't stripping her rights. She had due process and was made whole. She was new the risks of her profession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    I remember in the Fall of 2014, people on this forum were all panicked about the Ebola virus. People were doing the Chicken Little routine. They were all for violating anyone's rights who might even have a chance of carrying the virus, even if there were no symptoms. Supposedly liberty-loving people here were all for imprisoning Kaci Hickox, a nurse who have bravely volunteered to treat Ebola patients in Africa and have her lose all her rights because her body temperature was slightly elevated when she returned to this country. She was an expert in Ebola, and she said she didn't have it. A major medical journal and the Doctors Without Borders organization supported her. Even after she tested negative for the virus, NJ still kept her in a quarantine tent and people on this forum were all for it. She is now suing NJ.

    And of course, for all the paranoia, the Ebola thing never amounted to anything in the US.
    Wuhan Coronavirus mortality rate: 2%
    Ebola mortality rate: 90%

    Not quite the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwell97 View Post
    Wuhan Coronavirus mortality rate: 2%
    Ebola mortality rate: 90%

    Not quite the same thing.
    Old age mortality rate: 100%......How do we stop it before it kills us all.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwell97 View Post
    Wuhan Coronavirus mortality rate: 2%
    Ebola mortality rate: 90%

    Not quite the same thing.
    In 2014, in the US:
    Deaths due to Ebola: 2
    Deaths due to the flu: 106

    You're right, not the same thing. I would think it should be actual deaths that count, not theoretical percentages. And in Kaci Hickox's case, it was politicians overruling doctors who were boots on the ground with Ebola on a medical matter. New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and California instituted mandatory 21 quarantines for people who had been exposed to Ebola, even if they had no symptoms and even if they tested negative for the virus. Most states had no such restrictions and had no problems.

    So the government is going to violate your rights over the chance, no evidence, that you might be dangerous. Sounds like the same rationale for a lot of gun control laws.
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    Who names a virus after a beer?


    I suppose next is the Yuengling flu.
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