How do civil wars happen?

How do civil wars happen?

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    How do civil wars happen?

    A relative sent me this and I thought it was interesting enough to share with all of you here.

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    Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928, died 8 April 2018, was the Department Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. (Editor's note)This was the last of his works:

    Civil War: How do civil wars happen?
    By Dr. Jack Devere Minzey




    Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

    The Mueller investigation was about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here

    What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections. That's a civil war.

    There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

    This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.

    Your very own dictatorship.

    The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war

    Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

    If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him. He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda, and watch while one of America's Ambassador's (Benghazi) is dragged through the streets and murdered doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator. But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played. That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

    When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship

    Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in it if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.

    Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

    That's not a free country.

    It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

    Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist socialist Democrat professional government.

    Well now Pilgrims and Patriots, having read the above, I suggest two things: forward this very timely, very important analysis to those whom you believe think like you do (and those that don't) and make sure you vote on every Election day!
    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

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    Vote.…..we must remove these people ASAP.....in the immortal words of that Great Virginian, Patrick Henry " Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death"...omo.

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    It's good to be on the side (as mentioned before) with all the guns and knows which bathroom to use.
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    I've suspected the same thing since the seventies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxHeavy View Post
    Vote.…..we must remove these people ASAP.....in the immortal words of that Great Virginian, Patrick Henry " Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death"...omo.
    A distant indirect blood relative of mine.
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    Now we know Senator Joseph Raymond McCarthy was right.
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    Nice opinion piece but Jack Minzey never wrote it

    Jack Minzey was indeed an*emeritus professor*at Eastern Michigan University. He also*died*on April 8, 2018, as the forwarded email claims. Minzey did not, however, write a commentary titled “This Civil War” that’s been attributed to him.

    Daniel Greenfield wrote a delivered the commentary during the South Carolina Tea Party Convention Speech in January 2018. The original is titled, “The Second Civil War,” and mirrors the version later attributed to Jack Minzey word-for-word.
    It's an opinion piece and it can't be wrong but the fact that they got the author wrong makes me question the credibility of whoever is sending around the Chain Letter

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    Is it possible that Jack Minzey wrote the piece for Daniel Greenfield?
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    I don't think its an opinion piece at all but, rather a statement of straight up verifiable facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    Nice opinion piece but Jack Minzey never wrote it



    It's an opinion piece and it can't be wrong but the fact that they got the author wrong makes me question the credibility of whoever is sending around the Chain Letter
    Thanks. I haven't a clue where my relative got it but I can pretty much assure people that she just probably received it from someone who also received it.

    UPDATE: Yep, she got it from someone who got it from someone else.
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    The Supreme Court was intended to protect against veering too far outside the bounds of the Constitution. Sadly, that institution failed to do its job in the last 150 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoyVA View Post
    Thanks. I haven't a clue where my relative got it but I can pretty much assure people that she just probably received it from someone who also received it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothJazz View Post
    The Supreme Court was intended to protect against veering too far outside the bounds of the Constitution. Sadly, that institution failed to do its job in the last 150 years.
    Yep. The concept of interpretation is ruining the nation.
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    I don't even necessarily disagree with it but it's more credible when it's properly cited

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    If this is in veiled reference as to what would happen if Trump were convicted and removed from office I have wondered what would happen. I am sure there would have been a lot of chaos but I have no idea how much or what kind of violence would have ensued. I have heard people say that they think the removal of President Trump would have been the first step towards civil war in our country. On the other hand it might have resulted in the peaceful transition of power to the vice president. Then it would be up to the Democrats to how far they are willing to go to try to try to destroy the present administration and the country.

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