Baloney at the Gun Counter?
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March 27th, 2020 05:00 PM
I used to say that among gun enthusiasts, way too many seem to think they are an expert. After I started to hang around a local gunsmith he said he wanted me to take this test. It was designed to show all the "experts" just how much they really didn't know. Sort of a humbling exercise. One question I remember getting hung up on was about the rebated rim on the .284 Winchester. This was back in the 80's.
He was actually taken to court once by a customer whom he refused to make a custom handgun for. He told me that he didn't believe the man would be safe with what he wanted. Strange as it would seem today, the courts would not let him discriminate.
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March 27th, 2020 05:34 PM
My story is about a gun store clerk. I still frequent the store, but avoid this guy as much as possible.
I went in and asked to handle an EMP in the gun case. BTW, the guy was wearing a jacket with a (sorry, I've never served, so I can't read the patches.) military patch on the shoulder/sleeve. As soon as he handed me the EMP, he said "You're holding it in the wrong hand, you'll never hit anything holding it like that." He then proceeded to tell/show me the "proper" way to hold the pistol. One of the other clerks kind of nudged him and whispered to him "I think he's left-handed, that's a CZ on his left hip." At that point the clueless clerk told me I would never shoot well unless I changed to right-hand carry, after all, "nobody that's any good shoots left-handed."
Yeah, it's not always the customer.
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March 27th, 2020 08:34 PM
I have heard some of the normal nonsense.... but at Academy.. my husband sent me to get some powder.. Idiot behind the gun counter. ďany of that over there will work.Ē .. I like to think I saved a life that day.
March 27th, 2020 08:47 PM
True the .22 is the number one killer, but only due to volume. And its better than a .000 caliber or a BB gun. But I'd rather have one that has a decent chance of stopping in one shot, AKA, any of the service rounds.
And let's see, the 5.56/.223 is semi-correct. It IS safe to put 5.56 rounds through a .223, IF it's a .223 Wylde. And a particular brand/model 5.56 [I]might[I] run through that ordinary .223 you have, but I sure wouldn't try it. .223 through a 5.56? Yup.
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March 27th, 2020 10:01 PM
A problem with the mind "my own business" approach is the damage that can be done in the mean time. Unfortunately, the above doesn't seem to apply to politicians!
Originally Posted by DZUS
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March 27th, 2020 10:16 PM
Just like anytime you hear "...and that's a FACT!" you should probably assume otherwise!
Originally Posted by oldbadger
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March 27th, 2020 11:19 PM
My all time favorite is... A clerk was showing a striker fired handgun, and the customer ask's about the little kydex trigger cover.[ for pocket carry] The Clerk says" thats a neck holster!" DR
March 28th, 2020 10:31 AM
I wouldn't consider myself an "expert" by any stretch of the imagination, rather I would say experienced. I consider myself a continual scholar of firearms and have a love for oddball stuff. For me, firearms are more of a practice than a level of achievement. Its similar to a medical practice in some regards. I have a decent amount of firearms experience informal and formal but don't go to the gun shop to stroke the ego. I have taken the opportunity once in a blue moon to educate a counter salesman on a specific detail that they didn't understand but I try to just have polite conversation. I am really just there to look at what's new and hear some of the conversations. I usually only get involved if I hear something that would create a safety hazard like wrong caliber for said firearm. The more humble you can be the less crow you have to eat. Even now I am still learning new things and have picked up some real treasures listening to some of the experienced sales guys and customers, not the know-it-alls.
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March 28th, 2020 10:53 AM
I've run every test I can think of, and I can't see roofing nails or framing nails to be any more dead or alive than door nails.
Originally Posted by OldChap
March 28th, 2020 11:09 AM
Originally Posted by Nmuskier
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In A Christmas Carol
, Charles Dickens wrote about the questionable phrase, ďdead as a doornail,Ē saying:
Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail.
Mind! I donít mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Countryís done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.
The Origin of the Phrase "As Dead as a Doornail"
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March 28th, 2020 12:06 PM
I try and learn something new everyday! That may be it for today! DR
Originally Posted by Kilowatt3
March 28th, 2020 12:18 PM
Baloney at the gun counter? No wonder I couldn't find it, I was looking in the lunch meat cooler.
March 28th, 2020 03:32 PM
I dislike the ones behind the counter that believe a "Block" is the only gun to have. You ask about another brand or a da/sa and they go back to a "Block".
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March 28th, 2020 03:56 PM
My Seabee dad taught me how to clench nails.
Originally Posted by Kilowatt3
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March 28th, 2020 08:32 PM
The .357 Magnum will split a car's engine block.
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